https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 02:55:31 +0000 Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:18:32 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3777 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61797&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61797 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 3777
Posted: 11 September 2022 at 5:18pm

Playlist has the 45 version of "Your imagination". Unlike
some comps in the Playlist series, this one is still
readily available.]]> Sun, 11 Sep 2022 17:18:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61797&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61797 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61795&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61795 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3777
Posted: 11 September 2022 at 4:59pm

I had a chance to hear and look at the waveforms for a couple of these today, and I agree that they don't have as much hard limiting and compression applied as the 12 Inch Collection. This is a nice find!]]> Sun, 11 Sep 2022 16:59:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61795&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61795 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61771&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61771 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3777
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 9:14pm

I'm glad you brought this up, because I was wondering if the remasters were any better or if they used the same digital masters as the 12 Inch Collection. I'm glad to know that even though they came out around the same time the remasters aren't mastered quite as loud. I might try to seek them out.]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 21:14:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61771&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61771 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61769&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61769 Author: davidlg1971
Subject: 3777
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 8:40pm

aaronk wrote: It's a shame the mastering isn't better on the 12 Inch Collection (Japan) and Extended Mixes (digital). All the songs on those releases are heavily brickwalled. On top of that, though, "Your Imagination" was run through noise reduction for no apparent reason. The high frequencies have a gated sound to them. Not good!

Yeah, I have the 2018 reissue of the 12" Collection, and definitely agree about the loudness.

But your post made me wonder - are the bonus tracks on the 2004 remasters the same? I have the 2011 Japanese reissues of the 2004 RCA discs, so I decided to measure the loudness of various tracks that appear on both, and figured I'd post my findings:

I Can't Go For That Extended Club Mix
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -13.7 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -10.0 db (-10.5 db on the digital comp, with 0.5 headroom)

One On One Club Mix
2001 The Ballads Collection - RMS -16.8 db
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -14.7 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -11.9 db

Family Man Extended Dance Mix
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -13.9 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -11.4 db

Your Imagination Disco Remix
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -13.1 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -10.6 db

Out Of Touch Extended Version
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -13.9 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -11.1 db

Method Of Modern Love Extended Version
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -14.3 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -11.7 db

Dance On Your Knees Extended Version
2004/2011 remaster series - RMS -15.1 db
2003/2018 12" Collection - RMS -11.6 db

As you can see, the 2004/2011 masters are still on the loud side, but not as bad as the 12" Collection. (I Can't Go For That at -10.0 db? Seriously?)

I also included the One On One 12" mix that appeared on the ballads collection, which is a more reasonable -16.8 db. Which begs the question - why not reissue these compilations without the heavy compression?]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 20:40:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61769&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61769 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61764&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61764 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3777
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 2:42pm

Ultimate has the LP version. The 45 has an edit of the 12" mix, which is drastically different.]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 14:42:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61764&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61764 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61759&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61759 Author: Scanner
Subject: 3777
Posted: 08 September 2022 at 1:38pm

Is the version on the 2004 "Ultimate" compilation the
single version? I recall hearing a few different versions
of this song on the radio back when and wondered which was
the "official" single version of the song.]]> Thu, 08 Sep 2022 13:38:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61759&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61759 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61728&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61728 Author: aaronk
Subject: 3777
Posted: 06 September 2022 at 10:19am

It's a shame the mastering isn't better on the 12 Inch Collection (Japan) and Extended Mixes (digital). All the songs on those releases are heavily brickwalled. On top of that, though, "Your Imagination" was run through noise reduction for no apparent reason. The high frequencies have a gated sound to them. Not good! Luckily, the folks at Razor & Tie opted to include the 12" mix on the Greatest Hits compilation, and it sounds much better. There's still hard limiting applied to the track but no NR.

Edited by aaronk]]> Tue, 06 Sep 2022 10:19:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=61728&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#61728 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29526&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29526 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 3777
Posted: 26 March 2011 at 11:44pm

Jody Thornton wrote: eriejwg wrote: The 45 edit of the 12" remix for "I Can't Go For That..." is available on one CD, according to the database. I understand that it's also on the remastered "Private Eyes" CD. So is the remix of "Your Imagination".

The 12" single versions of "I Can't Go for That (No Can Do)" and "Your Imagination" do appear on the remastered deluxe CD edition of Private Eyes (RCA/BMG Heritage 58615), but not their 45 versions.]]> Sat, 26 Mar 2011 23:44:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29526&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29526 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29487&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29487 Author: Jody Thornton
Subject: 3777
Posted: 21 March 2011 at 9:11am

eriejwg wrote: The 45 edit of the 12" remix for "I Can't Go For That..." is available on one CD, according to the database.

I understand that it's also on the remastered "Private Eyes" CD. So is the remix of "Your Imagination".
]]> Mon, 21 Mar 2011 09:11:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29487&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29487 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29405&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29405 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3777
Posted: 07 March 2011 at 12:53pm

The 45 edit of the 12" remix for "I Can't Go For That..." is available on one CD, according to the database.]]> Mon, 07 Mar 2011 12:53:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3777&PID=29405&title=daryl-halljohn-oatesyour-imagination#29405