Top 40 Music on CD Forum : Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot"

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : The long side of the promo 45...

Sat, 13 Sep 2014 08:04:36 +0000

Author: smvceo
Subject: 3854
Posted: 13 September 2014 at 8:04am

The long side of the promo 45 has a different fade than the LP version, as bagpipes are heard playing on the 45 that do not appear during the fade of the LP version.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : I have finally acquired a "Sky...

Fri, 29 Aug 2014 05:21:27 +0000

Author: jimct
Subject: 3854
Posted: 29 August 2014 at 5:21am

I have finally acquired a "Sky Pilot" long/short promo 45, which is 100%
similar looking as Steve's 2008 label scan, posted earlier in this thread.
My copy is in fantastic condition. To me, the long version side is in
perfect, wide stereo. I just can't believe how full and sensational it
sounded with my headphones on, considering its length/small 45 grooves
and all.

The song has long been a personal fave of mine, and a CD dub of the LP
version has been in my iPod's "high rotation" for years now. As such, I am
extremely familiar with that version.

Besides the appearances of the three early, psychedelic, reverb/echo sfx
after Burdon's "how high can you *fly*", which is unique to the
stock/promo 45 versions, I noticed another clear difference between the
long version promo 45 and the LP version. The LP version fades after the
fifth, near-identical repeat sing of the "you never reach the sky" lyric. But
the long version on my promo 45 only has three repeats of that line, then
totally fades out Burdon's vocal, and then adds about a :10 second, horn-
bagpipe only music segment, until the very end of the fade. This ending
can be clearly heard at the end, and is unique audio to the promo 45's
long version/Part 2 ending of the stock 45.

Steve, whenever time allows, could you please go back and re-listen to
the ending of your long side "Sky Pilot" promo 45, then quickly compare it
to the ending of the LP version? After doing so, I believe the two different
long version endings will then jump right out at you.

Edited by jimct

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : Hykker wrote: Kerry Jackson...

Tue, 05 Aug 2014 12:26:07 +0000

Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 3854
Posted: 05 August 2014 at 12:26pm

Hykker wrote:

Kerry Jackson wrote:

Wikipedia reports that "The US single, released in 1968, was the first to be pressed in stereo on MGM Records."

I don't know if it was issued this way commercially, but my promo of the Cowsills' "In Need Of A Friend", MGM K13909 SS is in stereo, though other than the "SS" suffix on the catalog #, there's no other notation of this.

My Monarch-pressed stock copy of "In Need Of A Friend" is also stereo, and like your promo 45, the "SS" is the only label indication that it is.

Unfortunately, its deadwax reveals a bit more: " <-- CSG -->". Ditto for the B-side, "Mister Flynn."

The stereo "In Need Of A Friend" 45 debuted on the Hot 100 chart two and a half months before "Sky Pilot" did.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : We played the long single version...

Mon, 24 Dec 2012 08:33:18 +0000

Author: Gary Mack
Subject: 3854
Posted: 24 December 2012 at 8:33am

We played the long single version of Sky Pilot at
KRIZ/Phoenix by dubbing it to tape cartridge since it
could easily be scratched. Then we learned that Eric
Burdon was really unhappy with the 45 mix which,
apparently, was done without his knowledge or permission.
From then on we played the LP track. That's probably why
the stereo single mix tape disappeared.

Anyway, the full unedited stereo 45 can be re-created by
editing the two together and adjusting the fade
down/fade/up levels (finding a clean 45 is much more
difficult!) I prefer that mix over the LP for the added
compression and special EQ made it sound much more
exciting.

GM

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : Kerry Jackson wrote:Wikipedia...

Mon, 24 Dec 2012 06:04:24 +0000

Author: Hykker
Subject: 3854
Posted: 24 December 2012 at 6:04am

Kerry Jackson wrote:

Wikipedia reports that "The US
single, released in 1968, was the first to be pressed in
stereo on MGM Records."

I don't know if it was issued this way commercially, but
my promo of the Cowsills' "In Need Of A Friend", MGM
K13909 SS is in stereo, though other than the "SS" suffix
on the catalog #, there's no other notation of this.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : My copy is identical to Hykker's...

Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:54:40 +0000

Author: Kerry Jackson
Subject: 3854
Posted: 23 December 2012 at 7:54pm

My copy is identical to Hykker's with short and long versions in stereo with the designation "saturation sound". Wikipedia reports that "The US single, released in 1968, was the first to be pressed in stereo on MGM Records." I noticed in the database that some of he cd versions are an edit of the lp version in an unsuccessful attempt to recreate the 45 version. My promo short version is simply a fade of the long version, 3:01 in length. Does anyone know if the "Part 1" is indeed an edit of the lp version or a fade? Bill's comment that the Varese CD used a promo 45 needledrop because the stereo master couldn't be found is interesting. I wonder if this is another case of destroyed or lost stereo or multitrack master tapes.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : The Varese CD used a reasonably...

Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:19:02 +0000

Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 3854
Posted: 23 December 2012 at 1:19pm

The Varese CD used a reasonably clean promo 45 as the source because the stereo single master could not be found. I believe they used the long version on the promo 45 as the source and simply faded it where they thought it ws supposed to fade. Probably because the long side was less worn than the short side.

i know this because I was part of the discussion on this CD, they were going to use a mono version as they had that tape.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : very odd....my commercial 45 issued...

Sat, 22 Dec 2012 11:34:06 +0000

Author: edtop40
Subject: 3854
Posted: 22 December 2012 at 11:34am

very odd....my commercial 45 issued as mgm 13939 states the
run time as 2:55 and also says like jim's 'saturation
sound-plays stereo or mono' but clearly sounds mono to
me.....the vinyl 45's actually run time is 3:02.....i have
a stereo cdr version of part 1 from the varese cd 'on the
radio volume 1' which runs 2:59.....

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : AndrewChouffi wrote:Hi Hykker, Does...

Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:22:23 +0000

Author: Hykker
Subject: 3854
Posted: 12 July 2008 at 5:22pm

AndrewChouffi wrote:

Hi Hykker,

Does the "complete version" on your promo play in wide stereo or mono?

Not sure I'd call it "wide" stereo, but it is stereo.

Does the "complete version" have the remix like the 'part one' does (i.e. echoplex on "How high can you fly" lyric)?

Yes.

Eric Burdon & The Animals-"Sky Pilot" : Hi Hykker, I have two questions...

Fri, 11 Jul 2008 20:28:15 +0000

Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 3854
Posted: 11 July 2008 at 8:28pm

Hi Hykker,

I have two questions for you:

Does the "complete version" on your promo play in wide stereo or mono?

Does the "complete version" have the remix like the 'part one' does (i.e. echoplex on "How high can you fly" lyric)?

Andy