https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 10:02:53 +0000 Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:19:38 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=3947 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53340&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53340 Author: C J Brown
Subject: 3947
Posted: 18 January 2020 at 7:19pm

My last word and post on this matter. All things Mark and others have said regarding Kind Of A Drag proves true when listening to the different mixes. After getting all the versions it is fun to compare.

USA 1967 Mono 45 as heard on the Bob Stroud CD
USA 1967 Stereo LP as heard on the 1989 Sony comp
Columbia 1969 stereo remix on Columbia Greatest Hits CD
Bob Irwin 1991 stereo remix on Sundazed Kind Of A Drag CD

Too bad Bob could not exactly duplicate the original 1967 echo in 1991. Otherwise Bob nailed the track with added clarity. ]]> Sat, 18 Jan 2020 19:19:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53340&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53340 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53173&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53173 Author: C J Brown
Subject: 3947
Posted: 22 December 2019 at 4:49pm

OK Mark. Thank you very much for the information and clarification regarding the "Kind Of A Drag" track on Pop 60s.Having recently obtained this Pop 60s disc I had never seen or heard of those errant remix remarks or credits. For me case closed on this matter.

I hope to revisit the Greatest hits 1969 mix on a Columbia CD soon. I had that title all those years ago but dumped it after Bob Irwin's 1991 work hit. I will not let that mix burn into my brain as it did from 1969 to 1991 or so.

Edited by C J Brown]]> Sun, 22 Dec 2019 16:49:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53173&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53173 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53168&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53168 Author: MMathews
Subject: 3947
Posted: 22 December 2019 at 2:31pm

I can guarantee my above report is correct. The "Pop
Classics Of The 60s" is the original U.S.A. stereo mix
from the master tape. This mix folded to mono is the hit
45 version. The digital remix credit to Mark Wilder is
incorrect. The first digital remix was Bob Irwin's in
1991.

The 1969 Greatest Hits mix sounds nothing like those 2
mixes.

MM]]> Sun, 22 Dec 2019 14:31:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53168&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53168 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53167&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53167 Author: C J Brown
Subject: 3947
Posted: 22 December 2019 at 10:32am

Until I get another pre Bob Irwin 1991 remix disc I will not be able to compare the Pop 60s track either. But are you saying Pop 60s sounded the same as the 1969 Columbia mix?

I would imagine what you say is correct about "Drag" not being a remix on the Pop 60s disc. I do not think a 1989 remix would not go unnoticed for all these years.

I still find the reverb being the biggest difference between the Pop 60s mix (whatever it may be) and the 1991 remix. Different as pointed out earlier by Mark. ]]> Sun, 22 Dec 2019 10:32:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53167&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53167 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53166&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53166 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 3947
Posted: 22 December 2019 at 9:11am

To CJ Brown:

My memory may be hazy, but I seem to recall that when I bought 'Pop Classics Of The 60s' a couple of the tracks labeled 'digital remix' were not remixed at all, but were a clean dub & sounded good anyway..

Maybe somebody here could concur or refute...

Andy]]> Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:11:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53166&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53166 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53164&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53164 Author: C J Brown
Subject: 3947
Posted: 20 December 2019 at 5:56pm

I have compared the track found on the 1989 Columbia Pop 60s and the one from 1991 remix on Sundazed "Kind Of A Drag" album CD. The biggest difference I can hear is the echo.Two different types of reverb perhaps? The horns at heard at various times (not heard much on break) during the song are much more easier to hear on the 1991 remix. I find the break featuring the organ to be similar on both. Overall everything is more clear on the 1991 but modern sounding. The Pop 60s mix sounds more dated to my ears.

The liner notes for "Kind Of A Drag" on the Pop 60s disc indicates it is a "digital remix". Same for Mr. Tambourine Man, Red Rubber Ball and More Today Than Yesterday. Mark Wilder gets the remix credits here. Should this version be shown as an additional mix " 1989 remix of the 1969 mix?

I guess I may have to search out the old Columbia Greatest Hits CD to in hopes to hear the "louder horns on the break" version made for the original vinyl LP back in the day. Does anyone know if that CD has that 1969 version of "Kind Of A Drag" untouched by Mark Wilder?

Edited by C J Brown]]> Fri, 20 Dec 2019 17:56:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53164&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53164 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53084&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53084 Author: garye
Subject: 3947
Posted: 10 December 2019 at 6:01am

I wish I could remember who sent me a MP3 of the 45.
Pretty clean sounding. It fades at 2:01 I think to miss
any turntable rumble at the fade. But otherwise it
sounds pretty clean, although a slight clip on highs in
part of the single.
But for a 50 year old single pretty nice!]]> Tue, 10 Dec 2019 06:01:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53084&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53084 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53077&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53077 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 3947
Posted: 05 December 2019 at 8:25pm

Chicagojoe:

Good thing you picked up the CD when you did. It's listed
for sale on Amazon anywhere from 32.00 to nearly 40.00
depending on where you look.]]> Thu, 05 Dec 2019 20:25:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53077&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53077 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53074&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53074 Author: chicagojoe
Subject: 3947
Posted: 05 December 2019 at 6:07pm

The USA 45 version of "Kind Of A Drag" was issued on a compilation CD. "Bob Stroud's Rock n Roll Roots Vol.8"
It came out in 2006 on SRO Productions. I picked it up a few years ago and they did a good job on cleaning it up. The same CD included "People And Me" by New Colony Six which is listed as "first time on CD". I'm pretty sure I picked up my copy from Amazon.
The version of "Kind Of A Drag" on this CD holds up pretty well next to other transfers I have , so I was pretty happy to get a copy of this CD.

Edited by chicagojoe]]> Thu, 05 Dec 2019 18:07:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53074&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53074 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53056&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53056 Author: Paul C
Subject: 3947
Posted: 02 December 2019 at 12:04pm

I can't find any evidence that the original mono mix of "Kind Of A Drag" has been issued since the original U.S.A. label 45 and album. My copy of the Columbia Hall Of Fame reissue 45 is stereo. (It has a grey label and no Collectables logo, which makes it a mid-to-late 1980s pressing.) The reissue gives a date of April 1969, which is when Columbia issued the Greatest Hits album, which was issued only in stereo.

I don't know when Columbia acquired the U.S.A. masters, but the Greatest Hits album appears to have been the first time Columbia issued any of The Buckinghams' U.S.A. material. There are three U.S.A. tracks on Greatest Hits, "Lawdy Miss Clawdy", "I'll Go Crazy", and "Kind Of A Drag". Sundazed has issued the Kind Of A Drag album on CD, but it does not appear that Columbia ever reissued the album after acquiring the masters.

For Varese Sarabande's The Buckinghams: The Complete Hit Singles, Sony claimed that it could not locate the mono tapes, which we know is nonsense (for the Columbia hits at least) because a couple of the mono hits have previously appeared on CD (on Varese Sarabande no less!!). It is entirely possible, however, that Sony does not have the U.S.A. monos.

One final little aside: Dan Belloc, the producer of "Kind Of A Drag", had had a hit in the Toronto area in 1957 with an instrumental called "Flip Flop".]]> Mon, 02 Dec 2019 12:04:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3947&PID=53056&title=buckinghamskind-of-a-drag#53056