https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 10:28:27 +0000 Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:17:07 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=408 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47955&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47955 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 408
Posted: 26 August 2017 at 9:17am

Steve Carras wrote: Our local radio stations played the nearly 5 minute long one that has the entire song, after second chorus/bridge then fades (or rather, on that track, before it goes into "Evening Time to get away"-after all, the entire "Days of Future passed" IS a two side/part "day themed" suite, or rather, song cycle on the album,, or rather a collection of such songs..I never heard the entire 8-1/2/ minute long track till buying the LP in 1980, 13 years after its 1967 release, even though Nights in White Satin/Poem Breathe Deep" HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLAYED IN ITS ENTIRETY WHENEVER RADIO PLAYS IT lol!) I have the 2:16 length version..this and "Nights..Satin" are examples of cold ending edits of longer faded album versions..an interesting inverse of the ususal "cold-ending longer track gets changed to shorter fade single" siutation..

]]> Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:17:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47955&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47955 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47954&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47954 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 408
Posted: 26 August 2017 at 9:15am

Steve Carras wrote: Our local radio stations played the nearly 5 minute long one that has the entire song, after second chorus/bridge then fades (or rather, on that track, before it goes into "Evening TIme to get away"-after all, the enitre "Days of Future passed" IS a two side/part "day themed" suite, or rather, song cycle on the album, or rather a collection of such songs..I never heard the entire 8-1/2/ minute long track till buying the LP in 1980, 13 years after its 1967 release, even though Nights in White Satin/Poem Breathe Deeep" HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLAYED IN ITS ENTIRETY WHENEVER RADIO PLAYS IT lol!) I have the 2:16 length version..this and "Nights..Satin" are examples of cold ending edits of longer faded album versions..an interesting inverse of the ususal "cold-ending longer track gets changed to shorter fade single" siutation..

]]> Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:15:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47954&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47954 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47953&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47953 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 408
Posted: 26 August 2017 at 9:13am

Our local radio stations played the nearly 5 minute long one that has the entire song, after second chorus/bridge then fades (or rather, on that track, before it goes into "Evening TIme to get away"-after all, it IS a two part suite on the album, or rather a collection of such songs..I never heard the entire 8-1/2/ minute long track till buying the LP in 1980, 13 years after its 1967 release, even though
Nights in White Satin/Poem Breathe Deeep" HAS ALWAYS BEEN PLAYED IN ITS ENTIRETY WHENEVER RADIO PLAYS IT lol!)

I have the 2:16 length version..this and "Nights..Satin" are examples of cold ending edits of longer faded album versions..an interesting inverse of the ususal "cold-ending longer track gets changed to shorter fade single" siutation..]]> Sat, 26 Aug 2017 09:13:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47953&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47953 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47952&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47952 Author: Hykker
Subject: 408
Posted: 26 August 2017 at 5:52am

garye wrote: It does show how the record companies were so concerned about the 2:30-3:00 minute song those AM days, they butchered songs for the airplay. You could have run it another 30- 45 seconds and still would've gotten airplay.

But for someone unfamiliar with the album version, it
sounded just fine. Remember, the Moody Blues weren't
exactly a household name in 1968...they'd only had one
previous hit, and that had been a very different-sounding
song (Go Now) 4 years earlier.

MMathews wrote: They had already released "Nights In White Satin" and at that point it failed to chart in spite of AOR play - so this 2nd single was just pulled off the album and thrown out there to see how it would do...that would also explain keeping it very short for AM.

Some promo copies of NIWS had an edited version that ran
~3:10 or so. (https://www.discogs.com/The-Moody-Blues-
Nights-In-White-Satin/release/7856625)
Keep in mind that in 1968 there were very few AOR
stations, and the djs played whatever they wanted so a
given song might only get played a couple times a week.



Edited by Hykker]]> Sat, 26 Aug 2017 05:52:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47952&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47952 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47951&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47951 Author: MMathews
Subject: 408
Posted: 25 August 2017 at 7:44pm

Yeah the quick fade was their attempt at making sound like a gentle, cold end on his vocal. But fading it quick like that just makes it sound cut-off.
I think if they had planned more time they would have mixed it to have a real cold end with a reverb tail.

They had already released "Nights In White Satin" and at that point it failed to chart in spite of AOR play - so this 2nd single was just pulled off the album and thrown out there to see how it would do...that would also explain keeping it very short for AM.
MM]]> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:44:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47951&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47951 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47950&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47950 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 408
Posted: 25 August 2017 at 5:31pm

MPH711 wrote: Some of you are forgetting what the 45 version sounds like when it ends. I don't hear any quick fade. They cut it right after the two cymbal notes. Take a listen: https://youtu.be/DSHVy-pEYSI

I hear a fade in the clip you posted. (Are you
listening with headphones?) Compare it to the full-
length version. The fade on the 45 actually starts in
the middle of the second cymbal tap, then fades
quickly before the next two cymbal taps.]]> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:31:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47950&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47950 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47949&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47949 Author: MPH711
Subject: 408
Posted: 25 August 2017 at 4:45pm

Some of you are forgetting what the 45 version sounds like when it
ends. I don't hear any quick fade. They cut it right after the two cymbal
notes. Take a listen:
https://youtu.be/DSHVy-pEYSI

]]> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 16:45:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47949&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47949 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47948&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47948 Author: garye
Subject: 408
Posted: 25 August 2017 at 10:01am

I have not listened to my mono 45 dub of this in awhile,
and I had forgotten how bad it was, a literal 3 second
fade as Heyward sings Tuesday Afternoon and gone! No
wonder I prefer the LP version even to this day.(the
version with the strings to the fade out.) It does show
how the record companies were so concerned about the
2:30-3:00 minute song those AM days, they butchered
songs for the airplay. You could have run it another 30-
45 seconds and still would've gotten airplay.]]> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:01:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47948&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47948 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47947&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47947 Author: sriv94
Subject: 408
Posted: 25 August 2017 at 6:09am

Thx, Mark.

I had seen Pat's notation in the database that the harmony overdubs were missing from the "Evening-Time To Get Away" portion. I just find it odd that all CDs containing the full medley are missing the overdubs--and I was wondering whether it was possible to create a pristine digital version of the entire track with the overdubs included.

Both you and John were kind to send me the 45 version--my thanks for that.

Edited by sriv94]]> Fri, 25 Aug 2017 06:09:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47947&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47947 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47946&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47946 Author: MMathews
Subject: 408
Posted: 24 August 2017 at 10:32pm

Doug,
I can help here... the missing harmony overdubs are for
the "Evening - Time To Get Away" portion. The 45 version
is simply the first 2:16 of Tuesday Afternoon, faded very
quickly.
MM ]]> Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:32:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=408&PID=47946&title=tuesday-afternoon-45-version#47946