https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 20:18:11 +0000 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:26:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=419 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=39258&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#39258 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 419
Posted: 29 September 2013 at 9:26pm

I've given the two CD pressings of Jackson Browne's Running on Empty a closer comparative listen and am bumping up this thread to make two observations regarding "The Load-Out/Stay":

1) The song contains more reverb on the first CD pressing than what was included on the vinyl LP (just like the case with the track "Running on Empty"). The second CD pressing has the correct vinyl LP mix.

2) As was pointed out previously, the song on the first CD pressing ends cold, yet fades out on the second CD pressing just like on the vinyl LP. This info was never incorporated into the database.]]> Sun, 29 Sep 2013 21:26:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=39258&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#39258 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37329&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37329 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 419
Posted: 15 April 2013 at 6:57pm

It's more like a "cold fade" on my non-remastered copy... The music clearly ends but is then trailed by a little over :01 of decaying reverb.]]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:57:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37329&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37329 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37313&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37313 Author: Hykker
Subject: 419
Posted: 15 April 2013 at 5:00am

Todd Ireland wrote: So my question is, does "Stay" end cold or fade out on the parent vinyl LP release?

Fades on my copy.
Don't think I've ever heard it with a cold ending.]]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 05:00:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37313&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37313 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37311&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37311 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 419
Posted: 14 April 2013 at 11:53pm

I brought up in the Jackson Browne - Running On Empty thread that Jackson Browne's Running on Empty album (along with his first six LP releases on the Asylum label) was first issued on CD in the '80s and then later remastered in the late '90s. Since both pressings appear identical on the outside, the only way to tell the difference between an opened copy of either pressing is by looking at the hub of the CD itself. If there's an "RE-2" etched among the matrix numbers, then it's a remastered disc. If no "RE-2", then it's an original pressing.   

On the original pressing, "The Load-Out" (run time: 5:35) and "Stay" (3:24) are indexed as one continuous track running 8:59 and "Stay" ends cold. Yet on the remastered pressing the songs are individually assigned as separate tracks ("The Load-Out" - 5:35; "Stay" - 3:20) and here "Stay" fades out several seconds early!

So my question is, does "Stay" end cold or fade out on the parent vinyl LP release?

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:53:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=37311&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#37311 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=30500&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#30500 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 419
Posted: 12 June 2011 at 8:28pm

The 12 inch was sent to AM Top 40 stations, many would play the full song outside of morning drive. I have one of them. CHRs would compete with AORs or other CHRs by promoting "We play the long versions of your favorite songs" ]]> Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:28:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=30500&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#30500 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=30499&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#30499 Author: eric_a
Subject: 419
Posted: 12 June 2011 at 3:03pm

I saw a cool promo 12" single yesterday: "The Load-Out/Stay" b/w "Stay". I was surprised to see that both sides were in mono. Were there enough AOR stations on AM to warrant pressing these? Or does anyone remember whether CHR stations played the full medley?

I would have bought this but didn't have a safe way to haul LPs back from LA. Here's a pic I found on eBay.

]]> Sun, 12 Jun 2011 15:03:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=30499&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#30499 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=16317&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#16317 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 419
Posted: 15 May 2008 at 3:52pm

As Jackson sings "just a little bit longer", you can start to hear the instruments removed at the beginning start to mix in again...]]> Thu, 15 May 2008 15:52:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=16317&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#16317 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=16314&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#16314 Author: aaronk
Subject: 419
Posted: 15 May 2008 at 12:56pm

Well, you can get close to the 45 version by just starting at that point. The engineer did some slight changes to the mix, so that the beginning didn't sound choppy. For instance, there's a bass guitar that overlaps those lyrics on the LP, which appears to be removed from the mix on the 45 until the drums start. The organ also sounds a little lower and the vocals louder on the 45, but just on those opening lyrics. Other than that, there are no edits. It is simply faded early.

They did the same thing to the fade out of "The Load Out," where Jackson's vocals were removed from the mix. When the "people stay" lyric starts, you can hear it, but it appears to be through another open mic. His mic was obviously removed from the mix at that point.]]> Thu, 15 May 2008 12:56:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=16314&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#16314 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=15882&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#15882 Author: PaulEschen
Subject: 419
Posted: 03 May 2008 at 7:08am

Can the 45 version of "Stay" be created by simply starting where Jackson
sings "People Stay" at the segue, then time it out to fade by 3:15, or are
there edits as well?]]> Sat, 03 May 2008 07:08:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=15882&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#15882 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=419&PID=15872&title=jackson-browne-stay-loadout-or-rosie#15872 Author: TimNeely
Subject: 419
Posted: 02 May 2008 at 9:49pm

The 45 exists both ways. My experience is that the version with "The Load-Out" as the flip side (B-side catalog number EK-45485-C) is somewhat harder to find than the version with "Rosie" on the flip (B-side catalog number EK-45485-B).

The version with "The Load-Out" on the flip does not have a picture sleeve, whereas the one with "Rosie" on the flip does.
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