https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 22:18:57 +0000 Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:40:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4195 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=46370&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#46370 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 4195
Posted: 12 October 2016 at 8:40pm

The mastering history for "Tuff Enuff" is pretty straightforward.

The first CD to include the song was the full-length Fabulous Thunderbirds CD Tuff Enuff (1986). It runs 3:22 here, and sounds quite nice. Excellent dynamic range, reasonable EQ, and a nice, hissy fade with no hint of noise reduction. I approve. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Sandstone's Rock The First Vol. 2 (1992)
• Rhino's VH1 More Of The Big 80's (1997; differently-EQ'd digital clone) - In 1996-7, Rhino released a handful of one-off, two-CD, and three-CD sets that used (mostly) digital clones of earlier CDs, including Hang The DJ, Mellow Rock Hits, Poptopia, and these VH1 discs.
• Sony's Hits Of 1986 (1999)
• Rhino's Millennium New Blues Party (2000)
• Rhino's 7-CD Like Omigod (2002; too loud and clips a lot - avoid)
• Sony's 3-CD Rockin' 80s (2004; too loud and clips a lot - avoid)

Of the above CDs, the Rhinos and Rockin' 80s run a second or two shorter than the others, by hastening the long fade. Rock The First Vol. 2 sounds extremely close to Tuff Enuff, if you don't have Tuff Enuff.

I found only one other analog transfer, on Realm's Gold And Platinum Vol. 3 (1987). It, too, has an excellent dynamic range, reasonable EQ, and no hint of noise reduction. But compared to Tuff Enuff, it runs 0.7% slower, it has a noisier background, and it has a noticeable hum on the fade that isn't on Tuff. Not good. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 17 The Mid-'80s Take Two (1996; differently-EQ'd digital clone)
• Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 24 The '80s Take Two (1996; digitally exactly 0.517 dB quieter than Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 17 The Mid-'80s Take Two)
• Madacy's Rock On 1986 Mad About You (1998; digitally exactly 1 dB louder than Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 17 The Mid-'80s Take Two)

My recommendation: Columbia's full-length Fabulous Thunderbirds CD Tuff Enuff (1986), but Sandstone's Rock The First Vol. 2 (1992) will run a close second if you'd rather have the song on a compilation.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:40:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=46370&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#46370 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=44269&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#44269 Author: NightAire
Subject: 4195
Posted: 30 August 2015 at 9:38pm

It only made it to #65 on the Billboard Hot 100, but went
to #3 on the Mainstream Rock Charts and appeared in the Tom
Cruise flick, "Cocktail"...

"Powerful Stuff" runs 4:48 on the Fabulous Thunderbirds LP
and Cocktail soundtrack, but the single version is labeled
"edit" and runs only 4:07.

Does anybody know if this single version is just an early
fade, or if it IS an edit, can you tell me what to remove
to make the LP version the single length?]]> Sun, 30 Aug 2015 21:38:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=44269&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#44269 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=18694&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#18694 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 4195
Posted: 06 September 2008 at 8:25pm

The actual commercial 45 run time of Fabulous Thunderbird's "Tuff Enuff" is 3:19. (Thanks to abagon for providing the timing info. The printed record label time is 3:21.) I only post this because database CDs containing this song run 3:17-3:22.]]> Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:25:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4195&PID=18694&title=tuff-enuff-fabulous-thunderbirds#18694