Top 40 Music on CD Forum : MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 29 Apr 2026 10:44:43 +0000 Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:56:45 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4217 <![CDATA[Top 40 Music on CD Forum]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : I did a deep dive, but neither...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=67110&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#67110 Author: crocodile
Subject: 4217
Posted: 31 July 2025 at 6:56pm

I did a deep dive, but neither the Stronga-Conga/European Remix of Conga nor the Remixed Version of Surrender had any additional mix credits on any of the physical releases (checked Discogs and looked at the photos), so it's anyone's guess who did it.
]]> Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:56:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=67110&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#67110 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : crocodile wrote:BTW, the Conga...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=67099&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#67099 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 4217
Posted: 30 July 2025 at 2:35am

Originally posted by crocodile crocodile wrote:

BTW, the Conga (Stronga-Conga Remix) is also known as Conga (European Remix) and it was only released on CD once as a European mini-single in 1989.  I don't have it yet cause it's a bit pricey for a 2 track single (also contains the more common Dance Mix).


I have this CD single but it doesn't list the remixer for the Stronga-Conga Remix, only the more common Dance Mix (which was remixed by Pablo Flores). Also, the Stronga-Conga remix is on some 12" vinyl singles of "Falling in Love (Uh Oh)", but again, on Discogs, there's no credit for the Stronga-Conga remix. Does anyone know who remixed this? I know it's also called the European Remix, but on Discogs, I can't find credits when it's listed that way, either. (That's actually how it's listed on my CD single).

Also, does anyone know who remixed "Surrender" (originally from "Let It Loose")? It's only on the CD single of "Can't Stay Away from You", and it doesn't list the remixer. (The original version on "Let It Loose" was mixed by Pablo Flores).

Edited by EdisonLite - 30 July 2025 at 2:55am]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2025 02:35:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=67099&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#67099 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : With &#034;Conga&#034; being the...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66842&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66842 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 4217
Posted: 30 May 2025 at 12:10pm

With "Conga" being the song that broke MSM worldwide, I'd think, if any song, that one would have a Spanish-language version - especially to appeal the countries where Spanish is the main language - but it certainly looks like they didn't record such a version.


And as for the singles from "Primitive Love", 3 out of 4 don't have Spanish-language versions.

Edited by EdisonLite - 30 May 2025 at 12:12pm]]> Fri, 30 May 2025 12:10:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66842&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66842 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : EdisonLite wrote:I gave my...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66841&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66841 Author: David Pro
Subject: 4217
Posted: 30 May 2025 at 9:31am

Originally posted by EdisonLite EdisonLite wrote:

I gave my summary of "Bad Boy" (short versions) 3 posts ago. Now that I have the European version of "Primitive Love" on CD, here's my summary of the extended versions on CD:

Shep Pettibone Club Mix - 6:11
-Twelve Inch Mixes (UK import)
-The Best Remixes (Japan import)

Pablo Flores 12" Remix - 6:20
-Primitive Love (European version)

I believe there are no other CDs (imports or domestic) that contain extended versions of this song, which clearly means no extended versions have ever been released on US CD.

Incidentally, this European version of the "Primitive Love" CD not only skips listing the remixers, but on the booklet and backside of jewel case it doesn't even indicate that the additional 4 songs are extended versions. For instance, it just says "Bad Boy", "Primitive Love" (etc.) again.

Also, while many of Miami Sound Machine/Gloria Estefan hits have Spanish-language versions, I can find none for their breakthrough hit "Conga", which surprises me.

As far as I know, regarding the Primitive Love songs, "Conga" doesn't have a Spanish-language version unlike "Words Get in the Way" ("No Me Vuelvo a Enamorar"), and "Mucho Money".]]> Fri, 30 May 2025 09:31:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66841&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66841 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : Yes, I saw that the &#034;Stronga-Conga...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66825&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66825 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 4217
Posted: 26 May 2025 at 4:26pm

Yes, I saw that the "Stronga-Conga Remix" was also known as the "European Remix", and you're right, I found that it only came out once on an import CD single. It looked like it might have been 3" from the picture; wasn't sure, but I'm glad you confirmed that. I ordered it today. Looking at amazon, discogs (and maybe ebay), I only saw a total of 3 for sale: pricey, more pricey, and ridiculously pricey. With so few on the market, and me liking the mix as much as I do, I ordered the least of the pricey ones.

Edited by EdisonLite - 26 May 2025 at 4:26pm]]> Mon, 26 May 2025 16:26:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66825&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66825 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : I checked the article that mentions...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66823&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66823 Author: crocodile
Subject: 4217
Posted: 26 May 2025 at 2:02pm

I checked the article that mentions the tracklist from website The Second Disc and which releases it pulls from.  The "Bad Boy" Extended Dance Mix is listed as coming from the Japan release of Primitive Love and that is in fact the Pablo Flores mix, so there's no unheard mystery mix, it would just have been the same track twice if actually released, which is sloppy but I've seen happen multiple times on other sets.

The "Bad Boy" Extended Dub Mix is almost certainly mistitled and is either the Shep "Dub Version" dub or the Pablo "Rubber-Club-Dub-Mix" dub.  My money is on the latter since the Shep dub was already released on Dance Classics Pop Edition Vol. 5.

BTW, the Conga (Stronga-Conga Remix) is also known as Conga (European Remix) and it was only released on CD once as a European mini-single in 1989.  I don't have it yet cause it's a bit pricey for a 2 track single (also contains the more common Dance Mix).
]]> Mon, 26 May 2025 14:02:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66823&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66823 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : I was working with Sony/Legacy...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66821&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66821 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 4217
Posted: 26 May 2025 at 11:46am

I was working with Sony/Legacy on a Complete Albums Box Set (including the first 7 early MSM albums that have never been out on CD), with bonus cuts - and the same thing happened. We were speaking with the Estefan's manager, and he said the Estefans would like to hold off on the release because they wanted to focus on the upcoming album by Gloria. By the time that came out, Legacy stopped doing Complete Albums boxed sets. So it never came out.

As for the track listing of the above 2-CD set that never came out, thanks for sharing this, Edogak2000, and it looks like it would have been great. Too bad they didn't list who did the mixes for "Bad Boy" Extended Dance Mix & Extended Dub Mix, previously unreleased. I wonder if they came out on other CDs. Hard to know but probably not. Obviously not the extended remixes by Shep Pettibone or Palbo Flores as they're already listed on this.

The other track that I found really interesting is "Conga (Strong-Conga Remix)". I never knew about this remix, but I just checked it out on YouTube and I love it as much as the original Conga mix & extended remix, if not more.

Edited by EdisonLite - 26 May 2025 at 11:52am]]> Mon, 26 May 2025 11:46:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66821&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66821 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : In 2017, this album should re-released,...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66817&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66817 Author: edogak2000
Subject: 4217
Posted: 26 May 2025 at 4:05am

In 2017, this album should re-released, but the then the production was stopped:

"The label has confirmed the unfortunate news that the title has been indefinitely delayed, as a result of Gloria and Emilio Estefan wishing to concentrate on the recording of a new Gloria Estefan album.  Our friends at Vibe On have written, in part: "Until very recently, the Estefans were working with Sony Music Entertainment in order to help Vibe On make this deluxe edition as exciting as possible. Unfortunately for us, and for you, their fans, they have decided to temporarily halt the CD's release in order to focus all attention on Gloria Estefan's upcoming album for Sony Latin"

This was the tracklist so far:

CD 1

  1. Body to Body
  2. Primitive Love
  3. Words Get in the Way
  4. Bad Boy
  5. Falling in Love (Uh-Oh)
  6. Conga
  7. Mucho Money
  8. You Made a Fool Out of Me
  9. Movies
  10. Surrender Paradise
  11. Hablas De Mi (from CBS Discos DIL 10375, 1985)
  12. Hot Summer Nights (from Top Gun) (from Columbia CK 40323, 1986)
  13. Suave (from Cobra) (from Scotti Bros. ZK 40325, 1986)
  14. Body to Body (Extended Dance Edit) (previously unreleased)
  15. Primitive Love (Extended Dance Edit) (previously unreleased)
  16. No Me Vuelvo a Enamorar (Words Get in the Way - Spanish Version) (from CBS Discos DIL 10375, 1985)
  17. Bad Boy (Shep Pettibone 7" Remix) (Epic single A 6537, 1985)
  18. Falling in Love (Uh-Oh) (Demo) (previously unreleased)
  19. Mucho Money (Spanish Version) (from CBS Discos DIL 10375, 1985)
  20. Conga (The Stronga-Conga Remix) (Epic 12-inch single TA 6956, 1985)

CD 2

  1. Conga (Pablo Flores Dance Mix) (Epic 12-inch single 49-05253, 1986)
  2. Bad Boy (Pablo Flores Club Mix) (Epic 12-inch single QTA 6537, 1985)
  3. Falling in Love (Uh-Oh) (Pablo Flores Extended Remix) (Epic 12-inch single QTA 6956, 1985)
  4. Body to Body (Extended Dance Mix) (from Epic (Japan) CD 4988010202552, 1985)
  5. Primitive Love (Extended Dance Mix) (from Epic (Japan) CD 4988010202552, 1985)
  6. Bad Boy (Rubber-Club-Dub Mix) (Epic 12-inch single QTA 6537, 1985)
  7. Falling in Love (Uh-Oh) (Pablo Flores 7" Remix) (Epic single 650251-7, 1985)
  8. Bad Boy (Shep Pettibone Remix) (Epic 12-inch single TA 6537, 1986)
  9. Conga (Instrumental) (Epic 12-inch single 49-05253, 1986)
  10. Bad Boy (Shep Pettibone Dub Version) (Epic 12-inch single TA 6537, 1986)
  11. Falling in Love (Uh-Oh) (Pablo Flores Dub Version) (Epic single 650251-6, 1985)
  12. Bad Boy (Extended Dance Mix) (previously unreleased)
  13. Bad Boy (Extended Dub Mix) (previously unreleased)

CD 1, Tracks 11 & 19 and CD 2, Tracks 2, 6, 9 & 11 previously unreleased on CD

CD 2: Tracks 12 & 13: previously unreleased


Edited by edogak2000 - 26 May 2025 at 4:22am]]> Mon, 26 May 2025 04:05:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66817&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66817 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : Dance Masters: Shep Pettibone...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66765&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66765 Author: crocodile
Subject: 4217
Posted: 23 May 2025 at 1:03am

Dance Masters: Shep Pettibone is a 2021 UK release while Dance Classics is one of the best long running compilations of '80s 12 inch remixes ever, with over 70 discs released over a 15 year period ending in 2013.  They're all Netherlands releases.

The Vibe On release of Primitive Love was to have contained soundtrack contributions Hot Summer Nights (from Top Gun) and Suave (from Cobra), as well as spanish language tracks Hablas De Mi, No Me Vuelvo a Enamorar and the spanish language version of Mucho Money.  Four remix edits, a demo of Falling in Love, eight remixes, an instrumental of Conga and three dub mixes rounded it out.


Edited by crocodile - 23 May 2025 at 1:04am]]> Fri, 23 May 2025 01:03:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66765&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66765 <![CDATA[MIAMI SOUND MACHINE - "Bad Boy" : That&#039;s a shame that Gloria...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66763&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66763 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 4217
Posted: 22 May 2025 at 11:05pm

That's a shame that Gloria Estefan's camp squashed the release. I had never heard about it but it sounds like it would have been great. I wonder if there were any unreleased tracks that would have been included.

That's interesting to know about the Shep Pettibone releases on those CDs. Are those domestic or import?]]> Thu, 22 May 2025 23:05:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4217&PID=66763&title=miami-sound-machine-bad-boy#66763