https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 10 Apr 2026 00:08:58 +0000 Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:42:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4291 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35427&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35427 Author: sriv94
Subject: 4291
Posted: 21 September 2012 at 10:42am

Seemingly yes. According to Discogs, "True Love" on DMCA-1284 runs (4:08).]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:42:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35427&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35427 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35423&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35423 Author: PaulEschen
Subject: 4291
Posted: 21 September 2012 at 8:26am

Does anyone know if the UK CD single has the 45 version?]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:26:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35423&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35423 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35422&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35422 Author: sriv94
Subject: 4291
Posted: 21 September 2012 at 7:59am

Indeed. I thought it was real close, but I'll defer to the expert.]]> Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:59:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35422&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35422 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35413&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35413 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 8:31pm

Great info, Todd! Thanks!]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:31:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35413&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35413 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35411&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35411 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 8:21pm

I compared the 45 version of Glenn Frey's "True Love", as it appears on the promo CD single, to the LP version. Aaron is correct... The sustained note during the false ending does indeed trail off longer on the 45 version all the way until the next drum hit. Therefore the 45 version cannot be correctly replicated by just simply inserting 1.7 seconds of silence prior to the said drum hit on the LP version.

And for what it's worth, my promo CD single copy of "True Love" on MCA 6239 contains the following track listing and actual run times:

1) [No description listed] - 4:11 (printed time: 4:10)
2) LP Version - 4:38 (printed time: 4:40)

Track 1 is the 45 version but runs several seconds longer. (Those final seconds however are barely audible.)

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:21:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35411&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35411 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35407&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35407 Author: sriv94
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 5:39pm

Thanks, Aaron (and Abagon). From what I can tell, it's very close as to the length of the trailout--I don't think it's extended.]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:39:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35407&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35407 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35405&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35405 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 1:21pm

I just sent you a dub of the 45, Doug.]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:21:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35405&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35405 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35404&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35404 Author: sriv94
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 1:01pm

Thanks, Abagon. Is Aaron right, though, that the sustained note is a little longer on the 45, therefore the 45 cannot be created from the LP?]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 13:01:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35404&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35404 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35402&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35402 Author: abagon
Subject: 4291
Posted: 20 September 2012 at 9:47am

sriv94 wrote: So are you saying, Abagon, that to create the 45 you need to put 1.5 more seconds of silence in the break, then fade early to (4:07)? (And if so, where do you start the fade?)

Yes.
The end is at 4:07.5, the starting fade point is around 3:53 on the commercial 45.

abagon wrote: "True Love" from the album CD "Soul Searchin'" (MCA MCAD-6239) from the word "love" at 3:17.4, through the silence, to the next drum hit at 3:24.4 (about 7 seconds)

(Additional note) The above data includes the blank of the first 0.2 seconds on the CD. There's no speed difference between the 45 and the original "Soul Searchin'" CD.

--abagon



Edited by abagon]]> Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:47:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35402&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35402 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35398&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35398 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4291
Posted: 19 September 2012 at 8:39pm

If my memory is correct, I seem to recall that the sustain at the false ending is longer on the 45 than on the LP. In other words, they didn't just hack out some silence on the LP version; they also cut the tail end of the sustained note. Perhaps someone can confirm.]]> Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:39:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4291&PID=35398&title=glenn-frey-true-love#35398