https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 19:09:37 +0000 Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:53:46 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4594 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59364&title=penguinsearth-angel#59364 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 4594
Posted: 18 October 2021 at 9:53pm

crapfromthepast wrote: The oldest CD I have with "Earth Angel" is Original Sound's Oldies But Goodies Vol. 1 (1987). This track has a lot of added noise reduction. Avoid. Aside from the Original Sound CD, I found four separate analog transfer for the song. Three run at about the same speed as the Original Sound CD, and the fourth is much faster: Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1955 (1988). The same analog transfer is used on: Time-Life's 2-CD Love Me Tender (1991) Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 8 1954-1955 (1988). The same analog transfer is used on: Heartland's 2-CD Slow Dancing (1991) Time-Life's Rhythm And Blues Vol. 17 1955 (1992). The same analog transfer is used on: Time-Life's Heart Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 21 Slow Dancing Classics (1997) Time-Life's 2-CD Classic R&B Collection Vol. 1 1955-1959 (2000) Rhino's multi-disc R&B Box 30 Years Of Rhythm And Blues (1994) - runs 1.3% faster than the earlier Rhino disc (and the others). The same analog transfer is used on: Rhino's multi-disc promo Black History In Music Sampler (PRCD 7278, 1998) Time-Life's 2-CD Glory Days Of Rock 'N Roll Vol. 1 Doo-Wop (1999) Rhino's Millennium New Doo Wop Party (2000) Time-Life's Classic R&B Collection Vol. 6 Heroes And Legends (2001) Varese Sarabande's Totally Oldies Vol. 3 Then (2002) Aside from the speed difference, all of the above sound about the same. All have decent dynamic range, reasonable EQ, and no evidence of added noise reduction. If I had to pick one, I'd go with Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1955 (1988).

The sad part is that none of these on CD are the correct 45 version Ron. Based on research this non-hit version basically became the de facto version on later 45's in the 50's, LP's in the 60's and every CD with it. Such a shame as the 45 version with the reverb even on the 78 sounds awesome!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhXRDSO6wzk ]]> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 21:53:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59364&title=penguinsearth-angel#59364 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59361&title=penguinsearth-angel#59361 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 4594
Posted: 18 October 2021 at 1:11pm

The oldest CD I have with "Earth Angel" is Original Sound's Oldies But Goodies Vol. 1 (1987). This track has a lot of added noise reduction. Avoid.

Aside from the Original Sound CD, I found four separate analog transfer for the song. Three run at about the same speed as the Original Sound CD, and the fourth is much faster:

1. Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1955 (1988). The same analog transfer is used on:
   • Time-Life's 2-CD Love Me Tender (1991)
2. Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 8 1954-1955 (1988). The same analog transfer is used on:
   • Heartland's 2-CD Slow Dancing (1991)
3. Time-Life's Rhythm And Blues Vol. 17 1955 (1992). The same analog transfer is used on:
   • Time-Life's Heart Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 21 Slow Dancing Classics (1997)
   • Time-Life's 2-CD Classic R&B Collection Vol. 1 1955-1959 (2000)
4. Rhino's multi-disc R&B Box 30 Years Of Rhythm And Blues (1994) - runs 1.3% faster than the earlier Rhino disc (and the others). The same analog transfer is used on:
   • Rhino's multi-disc promo Black History In Music Sampler (PRCD 7278, 1998)
   • Time-Life's 2-CD Glory Days Of Rock 'N Roll Vol. 1 Doo-Wop (1999)
   • Rhino's Millennium New Doo Wop Party (2000)
   • Time-Life's Classic R&B Collection Vol. 6 Heroes And Legends (2001)
   • Varese Sarabande's Totally Oldies Vol. 3 Then (2002)

Aside from the speed difference, all of the above sound about the same. All have decent dynamic range, reasonable EQ, and no evidence of added noise reduction.

If I had to pick one, I'd go with Rhino's Billboard Top Rock 'N' Roll Hits 1955 (1988).]]> Mon, 18 Oct 2021 13:11:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59361&title=penguinsearth-angel#59361 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59358&title=penguinsearth-angel#59358 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4594
Posted: 17 October 2021 at 1:08pm

Rich, I see you posted it too. Apologies for the
duplication.]]> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 13:08:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59358&title=penguinsearth-angel#59358 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59357&title=penguinsearth-angel#59357 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4594
Posted: 17 October 2021 at 1:06pm

Here's a posted copy of the 45:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7ibQVVzqk]]> Sun, 17 Oct 2021 13:06:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59357&title=penguinsearth-angel#59357 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59350&title=penguinsearth-angel#59350 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 4594
Posted: 15 October 2021 at 8:10pm

Pat Downey wrote: I recently ordered a copy of this 45 which the seller claims is an original black label copy which has no address at all on the label and a matrix number of DOO-348-B. This 45 has the fadein introduction and the piano playing under the last sung note of "you". If everyone agrees this is the original release then I am ready to tackle the project of going through the 100 or so cd's that have been issued with this song included. So is everyone in agreement that the 45 I have is the original hit version of Earth Angel?

Pat,

I find it hard to believe that not one domestic CD of this legendary song has the correct 45 version! I'm not even sure Ed's version he sent me is the correct 45, its missing the reverb and proper youuuu.... ending that everyone is talking about.

This is one of those instances where even Eric Records DES uses the non-45 version as well. I'm starting to think it just never got transferred to CD in its 45 version!

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2021 20:10:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59350&title=penguinsearth-angel#59350 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59349&title=penguinsearth-angel#59349 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 4594
Posted: 15 October 2021 at 7:58pm

In assembling 1955 and a look at Pat's database tells me this song is not on CD in its original 45 version domestically. If anyone knows an import CD that it is on, please let me know where.

I checked American Heartbeat 1955 Disc 2 copy and it is not the 45 version either (it runs close but no cigar). The 45 starts with a piano. Every version on CD starts with this different intro.

For reference here is the 45 version. I don't think you can recreate it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7ibQVVzqk

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 15 Oct 2021 19:58:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=59349&title=penguinsearth-angel#59349 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42478&title=penguinsearth-angel#42478 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4594
Posted: 26 October 2014 at 5:48pm

Has anyone on the board been able to successfully
recreate the hit 45 version?]]> Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:48:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42478&title=penguinsearth-angel#42478 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42457&title=penguinsearth-angel#42457 Author: aaronk
Subject: 4594
Posted: 23 October 2014 at 10:04pm

boynamedfoo wrote: The fact that we delve into these song looking for the smallest minutia says something about us. What I'm not sure of, but something.

Yeah, we're all nuts! There's a reason that One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest is one of my favorite movies.]]> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 22:04:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42457&title=penguinsearth-angel#42457 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42455&title=penguinsearth-angel#42455 Author: boynamedfoo
Subject: 4594
Posted: 23 October 2014 at 8:24pm

I now contend that the "Doo Wop Love Songs (Box Set) Shout! Factory 10664" version is in fact
the 1960 Mercury records rerecording that reached #101. The absence of piano at the conclusion,
as well as he sings "The visions of your loveliness" at the 2:07 mark instead of the correct
"vision".
The fact that we delve into these song looking for the smallest minutia says something about us.
What I'm not sure of, but something.]]> Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:24:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42455&title=penguinsearth-angel#42455 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4594&PID=42443&title=penguinsearth-angel#42443 Author: Paul C
Subject: 4594
Posted: 21 October 2014 at 9:43am

Pat's description of his 45 matches my 45, except that the matrix number on mine reads "45-DOO-348-B". Also, as I state above, the intro does not sound faded in to me; the 45 simply starts at a point in the introduction at which the volume is rather low. All evidence I've been able to gather indicates that this is a 1954/55 pressing.

I've spent quite some time this morning comparing my 45 with the version on Rhino's Best Of Doo Wop Ballads. (I also have the song on Varese Sarabande's Rock & Roll's Greatest Love Songs and Rhino's Doo Wop Box. All my CD versions are the same.) Unfortunately, I don't have the Shout Factory box to which Foo refers.

The 45 and the CD versions are the same take. Strong evidence of this is that on both, Cleve Duncan does not pop the 'P' on the word "pray" the first time he sings the bridge, but he does pop it the second time he sings it. On the 45, however, there is quite a bit of reverb present throughout the song, while the CD versions are dry.

I had never compared the endings before, and when I did I initially thought that the final "You-you-you-you" was from a different take, because this final part of the song sounded noticeably different. But after listening to the two endings numerous times, I have concluded that the only reason the endings sound different is that the reverb at the end of the song is very heavy on the 45. The actual vocal parts are the same. The final piano notes are present on both, but sound far less prominent on the 45 because of the heavy reverb.

So the only differences I can detect between the 45 and the commonly found CD version are the intro and the reverb.

It appears from Foo's description of the version on the Shout Factory box that this is not the 45 version.

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