https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 16:41:12 +0000 Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:01:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=4975 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43532&title=double-vision-foreigner#43532 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4975
Posted: 29 April 2015 at 2:01pm

I stand corrected. I went back and don't think it's
there on the promo 45.

Anyone else?

Edited by eriejwg]]> Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:01:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43532&title=double-vision-foreigner#43532 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43531&title=double-vision-foreigner#43531 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4975
Posted: 29 April 2015 at 1:57pm

HitsTownUSA has a promo 45 posted on YouTube and it
sounds like the promo 45 has the click at the edit
point.

Double
Vision Promo 45]]> Wed, 29 Apr 2015 13:57:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43531&title=double-vision-foreigner#43531 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43527&title=double-vision-foreigner#43527 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 4975
Posted: 28 April 2015 at 7:33pm

Sounds like Atlantic/Rhino recreated the 45 edit for Complete Greatest Hits.

Does anyone know if the left channel click at 1:17 is on the original 45? I don't have a needledrop to compare.]]> Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:33:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43527&title=double-vision-foreigner#43527 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43525&title=double-vision-foreigner#43525 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 4975
Posted: 28 April 2015 at 7:01pm

Just compared my copy from Records to a
downloaded copy from Complete Greatest Hits. The
rather long, drawn out fade on Complete Greatest
Hits starts at 3:04, while the fade on
Records matches Ron's instructions above.]]> Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:01:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43525&title=double-vision-foreigner#43525 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43524&title=double-vision-foreigner#43524 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 4975
Posted: 28 April 2015 at 5:40pm

The LP version runs about 3:42.

I prefer the version on Atlantic's Very Best Of And Beyond (1992), which sounds very nice. There's a digitally identical clone on JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1975-1979 (1994).

The version on Sessions/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Night Beat (1988) has a very bass-shy EQ.

The 45 edit runs 3:29.

The first version of the 45 edit appeared on Atlantic's Records (copyright 1982). The original pressing of Records sounds like it's from a relatively high-generation tape source. There's a remaster of Records, with an "RE-1" in the matrix number. The RE-1 remaster sounds like it's from better source tapes, but is mastered a bit loud.

Both Records masterings show a slight editing error at 1:17, which has a click in the left channel at an edit. A close inspection of the waveform shows that the left and right channels aren't edited at the same time. If I didn't point it out, you probably wouldn't notice.

There's a different analog transfer on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 10 1978 (1990), which (to my ears) sounds a little better than Records. The same analog transfer is used for Time-Life's Guitar Rock Vol. 2 1978-1979 (1993). Both have the click at 1:17.

The version on Mystic Music/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Good Times (1991) has its left/right channels reversed, and has the click at 1:17. Avoid.

The version on Atlantic/Rhino's Complete Greatest Hits (2002) is mastered really loud, but fixes the click at 1:17.

And now, I provide entirely useless editing instructions for recreating the widely-available 45 version from the LP version, using the timings from Very Best Of And Beyond:

Segment 1
Extends from 0:00.0 to 1:17.4 of both the LP version and 45 edit
Ends on a snare

Remove the 16 beats from 1:17.4 to 1:24.7 of the LP version

Segment 2
Begins on a snare
Extends from 1:24.7 to 3:37.3 of the LP version
Extends from 1:17.4 to 3:29.9 of the 45 edit
Ends on a downbeat

Fade
24 beats long
Extends from 3:26.3 to 3:37.3 of the LP version
Extends from 3:18.9 to 3:29.9 of the 45 edit

Your mixdown will run 3:29.9, with one edit at 1:17.4 and a 24-beat-long fade starting at 3:18.9.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:40:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=43524&title=double-vision-foreigner#43524 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=22444&title=double-vision-foreigner#22444 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 4975
Posted: 01 June 2009 at 6:30pm

Jim tells me his commercial 45 copy of Foreigner's "Double Vision" has an actual and printed run time of 3:29. I only mention this because database CDs containing the 45 version of this song run 3:28-3:34.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:30:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=4975&PID=22444&title=double-vision-foreigner#22444