https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 20:10:37 +0000 Sat, 20 Jan 2024 03:53:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5034 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64282&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64282 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5034
Posted: 20 January 2024 at 3:53am

aaronk wrote: Good to see you posting again! I love that you decided to start with Aaliyah. We are now anticipating your posts for Abba and Ace Of Base to follow :)

LOL! Actually, I do plan to skip around the alphabet some, particularly to address more pressing items that may be of greater general interest to message board members. But, yes, don't be surprised to see more posts regarding "A" artists in the near future. ;-)]]> Sat, 20 Jan 2024 03:53:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64282&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64282 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64281&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64281 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5034
Posted: 20 January 2024 at 2:26am

Pat, I just checked my PayPal account and can confirm that I automatically renewed my yearly subscription of $29.95 to you on December 31, 2023, just as I have done each and every year since 2007. (You may have forgotten that "Todd Ireland" is only my user ID handle and not my real name, the latter of which I use for submitting subscription payments.) To verify this, when I log onto my subscriber account and click the VIEW LATEST ENTRIES link, I am currently seeing updates that have been made to the database all the way through yesterday's date, 1/19/24. Also, when I click the VIEW LATEST MODIFICATIONS link, I am presently seeing all updates made through 1/12/2024.

Regardless, it appears that you likely misread or misunderstood my post. I was referring to how the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" appears on cassette single copies of Aaliyah's "Back and Forth", but that info isn't currently mentioned in the database. I'm assuming this is because the remix appears on the cassette single's B-side. Right now, the database simply states: "the cassette single runs (3:49) the "LP version". However, immediately preceding that comment, the database does presently state that the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" appears on DJ copies of the CD single. Perhaps this is where the misunderstanding occurred and why you thought the information I was referencing regarding the cassette single had already been updated in the database (clearly, it has not).

Again, my question is whether the database should mention that cassette single copies of "Back and Forth" also contain the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix", given that this mix did receive Top 40 radio airplay and also appears on Aaliyah's parent CD Age Ain't Nothing But a Number (Jive 41533)? I can understand if the reason why there is no database mention of the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" appearing on the cassette single is because the remix represents the B-side.

However, if we're going to be consistent, then I'm wondering why the database comment for Aaliyah's follow-up hit "At Your Best (You Are Love)" currently lists the "Gangstar Child Remix" and the "Stepper's Ball Remix" as appearing on its cassette single release, despite the fact that those remixes represent the single's B-side? (I do recall that the "Gangstar Child Remix", in particular, received some Top 40 radio airplay and was used in the song's official music video.) Again, I'm mainly just trying to point out the inconsistency here. As a matter of general policy, should commercial single "B-side" remixes that received significant airplay be mentioned in database comments or not?

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Sat, 20 Jan 2024 02:26:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64281&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64281 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64277&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64277 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5034
Posted: 18 January 2024 at 7:08pm

Todd I see you are not a current subscriber to the Top 40
Music site. The information you posted has been entered
for some time so please sign up for a membership so that
you can save yourself and myself and the chat board members
a lot of time by you not posting previously updated
information. ]]> Thu, 18 Jan 2024 19:08:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64277&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64277 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64274&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64274 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5034
Posted: 17 January 2024 at 8:21pm

Good to see you posting again! I love that you decided to start with Aaliyah. We are now anticipating your posts for Abba and Ace Of Base to follow :)]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2024 20:21:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64274&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64274 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64273&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64273 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5034
Posted: 17 January 2024 at 7:35pm

Thank you, Dave! Good to see you, man!]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:35:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64273&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64273 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64268&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64268 Author: prisdeej
Subject: 5034
Posted: 17 January 2024 at 6:43pm

Todd Ireland wrote: As has already been established, the album version of Aaliyah's "Back and Forth" was the A-side of the commercial cassette single release and therefore should also be considered the official single version, in my opinion. That said, the cassette single's B-side contains the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" (actual run time: 3:43), which received some radio airplay during the song's release. So, should the database also list the remix as appearing on the cassette single? Ordinarily, my answer to this type of scenario would tilt toward "no", given that a commercial single's A-side is what record labels typically tried to promote. However, I do recall that the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" generated airplay on rhythmic-leaning Top 40 stations during the song's chart run and appeared on at least one promo CD single release, as Aaron indicated in the previous post. Also, for Aaliyah's follow-up hit "At Your Best (Your Are Love)", the database currently lists the B-side remixes appearing on that particular cassette single release ("Gangstar Child Remix" and the "Stepper's Ball Remix"). So for consistency purposes, should the same thing be done in the case of "Back and Forth" with the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix"? Any thoughts? My first database inquiry on this message board in many years, and I feel like I'm already creating a headache! :-P Granted, trying to sort out the seemingly endless plethora of remixes that flooded the market for many hits from the late '80s through the early 2000s has always been a source of constant heartburn for this community!

Welcome back Todd, you've been gone far too long! :)]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:43:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64268&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64268 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64267&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64267 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5034
Posted: 17 January 2024 at 6:38pm

As has already been established, the album version of Aaliyah's "Back and Forth" was the A-side of the commercial cassette single release and therefore should also be considered the official single version, in my opinion. That said, the cassette single's B-side contains the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" (actual run time: 3:43), which received some radio airplay during the song's release. So, should the database also list the remix as appearing on the cassette single?

Ordinarily, my answer to this type of scenario would tilt toward "no", given that a commercial single's A-side is what record labels typically tried to promote. However, I do recall that the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix" generated airplay on rhythmic-leaning Top 40 stations during the song's chart run and appeared on at least one promo CD single release, as Aaron indicated in the previous post. Also, for Aaliyah's follow-up hit "At Your Best (Your Are Love)", the database currently lists the B-side remixes appearing on that particular cassette single release ("Gangstar Child Remix" and the "Stepper's Ball Remix"). So for consistency purposes, should the same thing be done in the case of "Back and Forth" with the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix"? Any thoughts?

My first database inquiry on this message board in many years, and I feel like I'm already creating a headache! :-P Granted, trying to sort out the seemingly endless plethora of remixes that flooded the market for many hits from the late '80s through the early 2000s has always been a source of constant heartburn for this community!

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Wed, 17 Jan 2024 18:38:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=64267&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#64267 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=23526&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#23526 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5034
Posted: 30 August 2009 at 7:23am

In another Aaliyah thread, Jim posted the following promo CD info:

Aaliyah-"Back & Forth" (JDJ-42173-2)
1-LP Version (listed & actual 3:51)
2-Mr. Lee & R. Kelly's Remix (listed 3:44; actual 3:43)
3-Mr. Lee's Radio Remix (listed 3:51; actual 3:50)
4-Ms. Mello Radio Mix (listed & actual 3:50)

Aaliyah-"Back & Forth" (CHR Edits) (JDJ-42233-2)
1-No Rap (listed 3:47; actual 3:48)
2-No Rap/No Intro (listed 3:47; actual 3:48)
3-No Rap/No Intro/No Talk (listed 3:47; actual 3:49) **
** - (This is the version we played in 1994.)
4-LP Version (listed & actual 3:51)

In case you are interested in the CHR Edits, here are the details:

- No Rap version is the same as the LP version, except R. Kelly's rap has been removed from the mix from 2:06 to 2:12.

- No Rap/No Intro version removes both the rap at 2:06 and also the talking over the intro ("let me see you go back...let me see you come forth")

- No Rap/No Intro/No Talk version cuts the rap at 2:06, the talking over the intro, and the talk during the choruses ("let me see you back then forth now check it...")]]> Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:23:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=23526&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#23526 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=22826&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#22826 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5034
Posted: 06 July 2009 at 9:27pm

Pat:

Just wanted to bring to your attention that the 3:42 version of Aaliyah's "Back and Forth" listed in the database with a "remix" comment on her Age Ain't Nothing But a Number CD (Jive 41533) is actually the "Mr. Lee & R. Kelly Remix". Since this particular remix appears on DJ CD single copies and is also the B-side track on the cassette single release, I thought this info might be helpful to database subscribers interested in seeking this mix on CD.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:27:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5034&PID=22826&title=back-and-forth-aaliyah#22826