https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 09 Apr 2026 00:09:41 +0000 Fri, 26 May 2017 23:12:51 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5041 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=47458&title=rhino-digital-45-series#47458 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 5041
Posted: 26 May 2017 at 11:12pm

Yah Shure wrote: I picked up the Spun Gold "Touch Me" 45 in a store about two years ago, in the hope that I could replace my original 1969 copy, which didn't hold up well over the years. As I pulled the record out of its sleeve, I could see that it was of a more recent vintage, but decided to buy it anyway. Unfortunately, this Spun Gold copy contains the LP version. Although the label looks identical to the Spun Gold line when Specialty was pressing it in the '80s and early '90s - it even has the "(SP)" under the catalog number - the newest edition is clearly a different animal. The vinyl surface isn't quite as smooth as the older Specialty copies, there's no Specialty logo pressed in the deadwax and the new cutting is decidedly quieter. The deadwax etchings are comparatively faint: "ST-E- 45052-A-1", and across from that: "MCR-RCE" (mastered at Master Cutting Room by Rick C. Essig.)

Mine (the all yellow label) is the single-mixed in
the slow final verse with strings and no "Stronger
than dirt". Other side has "Hello I Love You" without
the "(Won't you tell me your name)" as so mislabelled
on some copies of the originao HILY. BTW the times
are switched: 2:13 (Hello) for Touch and 3:09
(Touch..) for HellO..]]> Fri, 26 May 2017 23:12:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=47458&title=rhino-digital-45-series#47458 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36831&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36831 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 5041
Posted: 20 February 2013 at 5:01pm

sriv94 wrote: TomDiehl1 wrote: Paul C wrote: All the various Spun Gold 45s I own (Doors, Eagles, Jackson Browne) are the LP versions, with the exception of "Light My Fire", which is the stereo LP version/mix with the 45 version edit. My copy of the Spun Gold reissue of Light My Fire plays in stereo and contains an edit that is an attempt at the 45 version but it is not the correct edit, it also runs at the LP speed, not the original single speed. You know, you just sparked something. Would that be the edit that cuts from the keyboard at (1:13) to the guitar at (5:13) of the LP version and then just plays out with no further edits? I'm pretty sure WLS in Chicago carted that version to play as an oldie in the 1980s, so I'm wondering if at some point it was actually serviced to radio as a promo.

There are two differences between the correct 45 edit and
the attempted re-edit: the wrong edit leaves in an extra
bar of music before the snare hits the triplet.]]> Wed, 20 Feb 2013 17:01:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36831&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36831 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36827&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36827 Author: sriv94
Subject: 5041
Posted: 20 February 2013 at 10:06am

Picky, picky. :)]]> Wed, 20 Feb 2013 10:06:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36827&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36827 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36796&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36796 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 2:34pm

Doug, it does, indeed match your description. Listed time is the usual 2:52, actual is 3:06.

The edit comes at 1:14, though. ;)]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:34:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36796&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36796 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36793&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36793 Author: sriv94
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 2:04pm

Does the botched stereo edit match my description or thereabouts?]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:04:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36793&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36793 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36792&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36792 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 1:44pm

It was the original '70s EKS-45051 Spun Gold reissue (with the semi-circular Spun Gold logo on top) of "Light My Fire" that first had the incorrect edit, in stereo. You can glean from the deadwax etchings as to whether or not a Spun Gold will be the original mono or the botched stereo edit. Monos carry the scratched-out (but still visible) 1967 "EK-45615-A" matrix number, accompanied by the newer "E-45-051-A" etching. The stereo reissue's deadwax reads "EKS-45051-A". The stereo reissue's groove pattern is also an instant giveaway that it is in stereo.

Those scratched-out matrix numbers on the '80s-vintage E-45051 "LMF" Spun Gold copies I have also happen to be in the same handwriting as the etching on my '67 original, and the lead-in groove spacings match. Both the original 45 and the mono Spun Golds are sourced from 1967 cuttings made on the same lathe.    

The major labels - and independent distributors, for that matter - were all too happy to send gratis stock reissue copies if major reporting stations such as WLS asked for them. Sometimes these were stamped or stickered as promo/demonstration copies and sometimes not, depending on the label or distributor.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:44:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36792&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36792 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36791&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36791 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 12:04pm

I've got the disc in storage so I can't confirm where the edits are on it, however mine is a stock copy. I DO also have a promotional Spun Gold reissue which contains the mono single version, it is a styrene 45 while the version with the stereo edit is vinyl. I'd say it's quite possible the later Spun Gold 45 could've been serviced to radio stations also. ]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 12:04:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36791&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36791 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36790&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36790 Author: sriv94
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 8:22am

TomDiehl1 wrote: Paul C wrote: All the various Spun Gold 45s I own (Doors, Eagles, Jackson Browne) are the LP versions, with the exception of "Light My Fire", which is the stereo LP version/mix with the 45 version edit. My copy of the Spun Gold reissue of Light My Fire plays in stereo and contains an edit that is an attempt at the 45 version but it is not the correct edit, it also runs at the LP speed, not the original single speed.

You know, you just sparked something. Would that be the edit that cuts from the keyboard at (1:13) to the guitar at (5:13) of the LP version and then just plays out with no further edits?

I'm pretty sure WLS in Chicago carted that version to play as an oldie in the 1980s, so I'm wondering if at some point it was actually serviced to radio as a promo.]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 08:22:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36790&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36790 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36789&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36789 Author: Hykker
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 7:49am

TomDiehl1 wrote: My copy of the Spun Gold reissue of Light My Fire plays in stereo and contains an edit that is an attempt at the 45 version but it is not the correct edit, it also runs at the LP speed, not the original single speed.

Many years ago I bought the Spun Gold reissue of LMF
hoping to get the single version in stereo. It was mono
as was "Love Me Two Times". I can't say for sure that it
was the correct edit, don't still have it.

Any Spun Gold reissues I've ever seen of "Riders On The
Storm" had the 45 version of both it and "Love Her
Madly".]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:49:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36789&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36789 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36788&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36788 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 5041
Posted: 19 February 2013 at 1:44am

Paul C wrote: All the various Spun Gold 45s I own (Doors, Eagles, Jackson Browne) are the LP versions, with the exception of "Light My Fire", which is the stereo LP version/mix with the 45 version edit.

My copy of the Spun Gold reissue of Light My Fire plays in stereo and contains an edit that is an attempt at the 45 version but it is not the correct edit, it also runs at the LP speed, not the original single speed. ]]> Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:44:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5041&PID=36788&title=rhino-digital-45-series#36788