https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 15 Apr 2026 12:54:57 +0000 Wed, 08 May 2013 20:15:45 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5254 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37600&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37600 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5254
Posted: 08 May 2013 at 8:15pm

Ed, hang onto the fake. Its physical appearance is characteristic of many other Richard Minor "mishaps," and by keeping it for comparison's sake, you'll be able to spot other of his counterfeits in a heartbeat. In that regard, it's a useful educational tool... especially if it saves you from shelling out more substantial dough for some of the more collectible titles he counterfeited. Luckily for us, 3-D printing capability didn't exist back in his day!

On the other hand, now that it does exist, you never know when the next counterfeiter might pop up. ]]> Wed, 08 May 2013 20:15:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37600&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37600 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37596&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37596 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5254
Posted: 08 May 2013 at 7:42pm

i just received my orange, white and gold lettered version
vinyl 45 for marcie blane's 'bobby's girl' issued as
seville 120 with a listed run time of 2:15 and actual time
of 2:16.....you'll need to fade out the 2:23 stereo cd
version for 0:08 from 2:08 to 2:16 to effectively re-create
the true vinyl 45 version......so much for my fake 2:10 all
black and white style 45 from the top of the post...i guess
i should trash that fake!!!...]]> Wed, 08 May 2013 19:42:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37596&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37596 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37523&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37523 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5254
Posted: 27 April 2013 at 7:41am

Thanks to all that have helped straighten out the diverse information previously included in the database.]]> Sat, 27 Apr 2013 07:41:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37523&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37523 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37513&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37513 Author: jimct
Subject: 5254
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 6:45pm

Pat, I have just pulled and timed my 45 copy. The word "Seville" is multi-
colored, with curved lettering, as John references. My info exactly matches
Tom's findings above. Listed (2:15); actual (2:16), with deadwax of "S9049-
1B" (although I think I also see a very small "Y", in the upper left, just before
the first "S".) The unique, small-letter font, used on my "Bobby's Girl" 45
details, exactly mirrors what I know for a fact was used on the many other,
approximately 200+ London and London-associated, 1962-1963 era 45s I
currently own, both hit and non-hit, that were pressed by Columbia.)

Edited by jimct]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 18:45:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37513&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37513 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37506&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37506 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5254
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 10:37am

musicmanatl wrote: Who is Richard Minor? Was he a major record counterfeiter of that time?

Minor was based out of Stuart, Florida, and was arrested by the Feds in 1982. Google "Richard Minor" and "counterfeit" to get an idea of how large his operation was.

I did knowingly buy a few of his Buddy Holly Coral 45 counterfeits in the early '80s for my jukebox, as they were otherwise unobtainable at the time. They actually didn't sound too bad (especially compared to his shrill "Bobby's Girl" fake.) Unfortunately, his "I'm Gonna Love You Too" pressing's trail-out groove stopped too far away from the label, so it would never trip the change mechanism. I ended up replacing that copy with an original Coral.

"It Doesn't Matter Anymore" actually sounded fairly decent, although there was no mistaking it for the real McCoy. The Minor knockoff was in true stereo and pressed on comapartively quiet, orangish-gold vinyl.]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:37:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37506&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37506 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37504&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37504 Author: musicmanatl
Subject: 5254
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 9:03am

Who is Richard Minor? Was he a major record counterfeiter of that time?]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:03:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37504&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37504 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37502&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37502 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5254
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 6:49am

yah shure.....it looks like i have one of the 'fake', re-issued copies of the song, then......i'll have to track down an original copy....thanks]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:49:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37502&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37502 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37499&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37499 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 5254
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 8:47pm

Pat I have forwarded you my email containing the dub of my 45 I made and emailed to Ed last year...which was a lot easier than me trying to find where I have misplaced the 45 since then!]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:47:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37499&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37499 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37498&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37498 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5254
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 8:32pm

London Records, which distributed the Seville label, kept "Bobby's Girl" in print for many years under the original catalog number. It was one of many titles packaged during the '60s in a black-and-gold sleeve with white print, with "Top Hits Of Yesterday & Today" "Demand Performance" in capital letters at the top, and several artists, titles and labels listed under the center hole. Those listed included records on the XYZ, Felsted, Seville, Splash, Shell, S.P.Q.R., Terrace and Garpax labels, "Bobby's Girl" being among them. The reverse side listed titles on the Hi label.

I bought my copy of "Bobby's Girl" in the oldies section at Musicland around 1969-70, by which time the Demand Performance sleeve had been retired in favor of the plain white variety. It's a Columbia Terre Haute styrene pressing with the multi-color, curved-letter Seville logo found on the original 1962 release. The title and artist fonts are thicker and bolder than the fonts found on most 1962 Columbia-pressed copies. Deadwax reads "AG 19051 - 1   Bell Sound script logo   TIII." It matches Pat's copy exactly, running 2:13 and fading out on the fourth "I." Listed time is 2:15.

In addition to the multiple record pressers and plants involved over the years (Columbia, Monarch, etc.) "Bobby's Girl" was also counterfeited by Richard Minor during the mid-'70s. These copies were on matte black labels, with faint silver print and a plain-lettered SEVILLE RECORD INC. logo straight across the top. Sound quality is what you'd expect from a needle-dropped 45, with channels coming and going during the first half-minute (especially on the beginning of the intro) and topped off with an early fadeout at 2:10. Deadwax on my fake reads: "34U   S-9049X". Listed time is 2:15.   ]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 20:32:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37498&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37498 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5254&PID=37496&title=bobbys-girl-marcie-blane#37496 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5254
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 6:43pm

I just received an email asking me to look into the Bobby's Girl situation as there appear to be multiple pressings of this 45 with differing lengths and speeds! Based on previous posts, I have entered the comment "slower than the 45" but this is probably not true for at least some of the 45 pressings.

First here is the information regarding my 45. Seville 120 with matrix number etched into the dead wax of AG 19051-1 with no other etchings in the dead wax. This matrix number is also printed on the label (minus the -1). As for the label itself, mine has SEVILLE in multiple colors and is curved. Now for the specifics: Total time is (2:13), stated time is (2:15). At 2:03 Marcie begins her "I Wanna Be Bobby's Girl" and she repeats this for a total of 3 times ending with the word "I" which would start the 4th repetition. How does this information stack up with what is on various cd's in the database? Well here is the information I found for the following cd's:

DCC 077 Too Cute -- the "I Wanna Be Bobby's Girl" sequence starts at 2:03 and is repeated 3 times + the 3 words I Wanna Be from the 4th repetition. Total running time is (2:15) and is identical in speed to my 45.

Eric 11503 Hard To Find 45s On CD Volume II -- the "I Wanna Be Bobby's Girl" sequence begins at 2:03 and is repeated 6 times with a total running time of (2:23) and is identical in speed to my 45.

Varese 6008 Discoveries Presents Stereo Oldies -- The "I Wanna Be Bobby's Girl" sequence begins at 2:03 and is repeated almost 6 times (missing just the final word girl) with a total running time of (2:22) and again is identical to my 45 in speed.

This information does not agree with some of the posts above in terms of speed, vinyl running time, matrix number and label layout so let's reopen this discussion to see if we can make any sense of this Bobby's Girl situation. I find it hard to believe there are so many different pressings of this 45 as reported above.

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