https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 13:06:42 +0000 Sun, 21 Jul 2013 09:22:12 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5281 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=38570&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#38570 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 5281
Posted: 21 July 2013 at 9:22am

Yes, based on the commercial 45 dub Ed sent me of Otis Redding's "Try a Little Tenderness" , I do concur that his copy runs 3:21. Granted, the vinyl surface noise is very loud and it's possible some final traces of music audio at the end of the fade out are buried under the noise. However, I cranked up the volume and made what I believe is an accurate judgment of the end point at 3:21.]]> Sun, 21 Jul 2013 09:22:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=38570&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#38570 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=38567&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#38567 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5281
Posted: 21 July 2013 at 8:14am

paul was kind enough to extend the 45 version by using the
lp version fade to adjust to the proper length of the vinyl
45, which after further review is actually 3:21 and NOT
3:23....although my vinyl 45 has quite a bit of surface
noise during the fade....can anyone else confirm their 45
run time of the red and black original issue 45?]]> Sun, 21 Jul 2013 08:14:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=38567&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#38567 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37571&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37571 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5281
Posted: 03 May 2013 at 3:17pm

okay....it looks like the re-issue 45 issued on the volt
orange and brown label with the multi colored lettering
runs 3:26 while the original 45 issued as the orange and
black with the voltage icon on the top of the record runs
3:23....thanks for your input pat...the orange and brown
has 'VLT-11135-3' etched while the original orange and
black 45 has 'V-11135-2']]> Fri, 03 May 2013 15:17:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37571&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37571 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37503&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37503 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5281
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 6:59am

i will double check my running time again tonite and report back....but on the surface, it looks like there may be multiple versions to contend with....]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:59:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37503&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37503 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37476&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37476 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5281
Posted: 24 April 2013 at 10:15am

Ed my copy of this record with matrix number VLT-11135-2 1 in the run out groove has a running time of 3:23.

]]> Wed, 24 Apr 2013 10:15:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37476&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37476 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37470&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37470 Author: edtop40
Subject: 5281
Posted: 23 April 2013 at 6:40pm

my commercial 45 issued as volt 141 states the run time on
the label as 3:20 but actually runs 3:26....the version on
the cd 'very best of' as rhino 71147 runs only runs 3:17
and fades out 0:06 earlier than the actual vinyl 45
version.....the vinyl 45 is also sped up versus the cd
version........i'm wondering if any of are resident editing
pros have been able to edit the 3:46 lp version to match
the vinyl 45 version....the run out groove info for me
commercial 45 is 'VLT-11135-3']]> Tue, 23 Apr 2013 18:40:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=37470&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#37470 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=24537&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#24537 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5281
Posted: 08 December 2009 at 8:07pm

I was comparing the 45 version on The Very Best Of Otis Redding (Rhino, 1992; digitally identical to the Stax/Volt box from 1991) to the mono LP version on Time-Life's Legends Of Soul - Otis Redding (R616-03, 2001; differently-EQ'd digital clone of Atco's Classic Recordings from 1991), and I noticed that the 45 is an edit and an early fade of the LP version. (The 45 version also seems much faster, but I don't know how accurate that Atco CD is.)

For the 45, the edit occurs at 2:51, at the snare hit right before the word "tenderness".

For the LP version, 32 beats are edited out, "tenderness" to "tenderness", from 2:54 to 3:12.

The 45 also fades about 5 seconds earlier than the LP version.

So, the designation should be "45 version" and "LP version"; the 1955-1996 edition of the book has "45 length" and "LP length".]]> Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:07:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5281&PID=24537&title=otis-redding-try-a-little-tenderness#24537