https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 08:24:25 +0000 Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:26:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5424 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=41189&title=tierra-together#41189 Author: KentT
Subject: 5424
Posted: 22 April 2014 at 2:26pm

I'd try to go for an ASI 45 of "Together" myself. Why not
go for the original. ]]> Tue, 22 Apr 2014 14:26:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=41189&title=tierra-together#41189 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40513&title=tierra-together#40513 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 5424
Posted: 12 February 2014 at 2:24am

I have always felt that this song sounded unnatural on
CD, as if it was NR'ed, and, if the only source of it was
from Original Sound, it likely was.

In the mid-80s, Priority Records and Original Sound CDs
used Hark Waring's "Full Dimensional Sound", or FDS, an
elaborate system used to de-noise tapes. The system had
the effect of removing every bit of noise from tapes, or
whatever source, and, as a result, left them sounding
hard and cold.

Other songs that have somewhat similar sonic
characteristics as "Together" on CD are "Precious And
Few" by Climax and "Show And Tell" by Al Wilson.
Curiously, those tracks also showed up on other Original
Sound "Oldies But Goodies" CD volumes.

The Priority "Baby Boomer Classics" CDs the FDS NR was
used on sounded even worse.

This thread has made me determined to find the Boardwalk
45 of "Together", as I dug up the original Carousel 45 of
"Precious and Few", and sound a download of "Show And
tell" that sounds much more like I remember it from 1973.]]> Wed, 12 Feb 2014 02:24:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40513&title=tierra-together#40513 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40512&title=tierra-together#40512 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 5424
Posted: 11 February 2014 at 11:56pm

aaronk wrote: Just listened to the file, and if this was taken from vinyl, my ears can't tell. The only bummer is that it's in mono and a little heavy on the bass.

Aaron, from what Ron described (fades out a second or two early) and your own comment about the prominent bass, it sounds like that file is a needledrop of the ASI 45, summed to mono and pitched slower to match the speed of the Boardwalk 45.

The ASI's bass response just rocks, and although I've never heard the Boardwalk release, my guess is that the bottom end was toned down on it. When I did my own ASI needledrop, I ended up summing it to mono, having spent entirely too much time trying to de-rumble the intro while still maintaining stereo separation. The summed result was as quiet as could be. ]]> Tue, 11 Feb 2014 23:56:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40512&title=tierra-together#40512 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40505&title=tierra-together#40505 Author: KentT
Subject: 5424
Posted: 09 February 2014 at 6:13pm

Every CD source of this is needledrops. Never heard one
from tape. Wonder if the Boardwalk 45 is from tape sources
itself? Might be part of the mystery. I figure the monoing
is being done to hide vinyl artifacts and the early fades. ]]> Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:13:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40505&title=tierra-together#40505 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40377&title=tierra-together#40377 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5424
Posted: 27 January 2014 at 9:46pm

Just listened to the file, and if this was taken from vinyl, my ears can't tell. The only bummer is that it's in mono and a little heavy on the bass.]]> Mon, 27 Jan 2014 21:46:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40377&title=tierra-together#40377 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40370&title=tierra-together#40370 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5424
Posted: 26 January 2014 at 11:12pm

Ron, if you can forward the file to me, I'll take a listen. Of all the cd
sources I've heard with vinyl dubs, I think my own vinyl dub trumps
them all. Jim was kind enough to provide a mint LP, as well as some
pristine 45 copies as the sources, which I patched together to make my
master file. ]]> Sun, 26 Jan 2014 23:12:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40370&title=tierra-together#40370 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40369&title=tierra-together#40369 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5424
Posted: 26 January 2014 at 9:56pm

I listened to the file that musicmantl has from the
City Nights CD.

It's pure mono, unlike the Rhino needledrop, which is a
narrow stereo. It fades a wee bit sooner than the Rhino
needledrop, but just by a second or two.

I don't hear any vinyl-related artifacts. If I raise the
Rhino needledrop intro by 20 dB, I hear a little surface
noise - no such noise on the City Nights version.
There may be a little NR on the City Nights
version, but it's not oppressive, and it doesn't leave
any artifacts on the fade. It certainly doesn't provoke
an "ouch"!

Overall, I can't say with certainty that it's from tape,
but it sounds very good for this song.

I would defer to Aaron's ears for this track. I'm a
little suspicious that it's in pure mono and fades a tiny
bit early - those can mask the artifacts from a
needledrop.

I await Aaron's review. (This is fun!)]]> Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:56:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40369&title=tierra-together#40369 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40367&title=tierra-together#40367 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 5424
Posted: 26 January 2014 at 9:14pm

Yah Shure wrote: Hykker wrote: I also don't remember this song getting much airplay, but we really didn't have much in the way of Top 40 radio up this way in '80/81. Even though you'd think this would have been a big AC hit, I don't recall any of the AC stations playing it either. The full-service AC I worked at in St. Cloud, MN never played it, either. At the time, I often listened to KFI-AM/Los Angeles into the wee hours. The Tierra record was a big local hit in L.A. and KFI played the hell out of it. Although "Together" hadn't charted yet, the St. Cloud Musicland store already had the original ASI pressing in stock, so that's what I bought.

Good point. I've lived my whole life in Southern California and I remember that record (which also sampled "Cowboys to Girls", both done by the Intruders)

Edited by Steve Carras]]> Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:14:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40367&title=tierra-together#40367 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40366&title=tierra-together#40366 Author: musicmanatl
Subject: 5424
Posted: 26 January 2014 at 8:20pm

I have this song on a CD reissue of the original LP that contained "Together", entitled "City Nights". The copyright is in 2000 by Reach Entertainment, Inc. The back cover shows the labels as Boardwalk Records and RKO Records. It looks like the label reissued other Boardwalk LPs by Richard "Dimples" Fields, the Ohio Players, Curtis Mayfield and others.

The CD is listed in Amazon here:

http://www.amazon.com/City-Nights-Tierra/dp/B00004WK56/ref=s r_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1390792660&sr=8-1&keywords=tierra+city+nig hts

There's only one used copy for sale for $59.99.

I can send someone a wav file if you want to check if it's from tape or vinyl. I'm guessing vinyl, but it never hurts to check.

This CD needs to be added to the database too.]]> Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:20:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40366&title=tierra-together#40366 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40360&title=tierra-together#40360 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5424
Posted: 25 January 2014 at 7:05pm

Thanks to the speedy generosity of jimct, I can confirm
that Time-Life's 2-CD Body And Soul Vol. 14
Midnight Seduction (1999) is a differently EQ'd digital
clone of Rhino's Brown Eyed Soul Vol. 1 (1997).

Thanks, Jim!]]> Sat, 25 Jan 2014 19:05:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5424&PID=40360&title=tierra-together#40360