https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 15 Apr 2026 16:09:30 +0000 Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:50:34 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=545 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47005&title=madonna-edits#47005 Author: Underground Dub
Subject: 545
Posted: 23 February 2017 at 1:50pm

The newly edited soundtracks you hear on Madonna's officially uploaded videos originated on 2009's "Celebration - The Video Collection" DVD.

"Celebration" has to be the most poorly executed compilation project by a major artist, and the same haphazard "remastering" and editing found throughout the CD/LP unfortunately extended to the home video release.

"Lucky Star" and the ending of "Papa Don't Preach" are especially bad.]]> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:50:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47005&title=madonna-edits#47005 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47002&title=madonna-edits#47002 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 545
Posted: 22 February 2017 at 4:06pm

I mean the YouTube video has new audio swapped out. The
video on the old Immaculate Collection home video matched
the 45 audio.

Actually, the FIRST home video version (from the four-video
"Madonna" VHS tape and laserdisc) was a different video
edit that used an edit of the dance remix for the audio.
This YouTube video is not that edit, though.]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:06:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47002&title=madonna-edits#47002 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47000&title=madonna-edits#47000 Author: aaronk
Subject: 545
Posted: 22 February 2017 at 3:18pm

I'd like to know the same thing. I think what he meant is the original
video matches the 45, but the YT video has the audio swapped with a
new edit. ]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 15:18:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=47000&title=madonna-edits#47000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46999&title=madonna-edits#46999 Author: JL328
Subject: 545
Posted: 22 February 2017 at 2:20pm

Well, I guess I've got myself a pretty awesome recreation of the "fake
YouTube video edit version" of Lucky Star then, unfortunately. Too
bad... it came out pretty nice.

Thanks Aaron for pointing me to the video of the real 45 version. It's
been years since I've heard the single edit on the radio and that
seemed to be what I remember. I think I figured out those first 2 intro
edits for anyone who wants them. I have them at:

Delete 14.070 to 22.246
Delete 29.235 to 37.433
Delete 2:19.390 to 2:35.758
Delete 3:41.359 to 3:57.718
Fade the result from 3:34 to 3:51

That's pretty close, at least.

One last question for Brian W.... so did the video actually contain the
real 45 version? Or is there actually a video edit? Sorry... couldn't tell
from your response whether you were implying that the video used a
different edit from the 45 (and different from the fake one on YouTube).



Edited by JL328]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:20:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46999&title=madonna-edits#46999 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46994&title=madonna-edits#46994 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 545
Posted: 22 February 2017 at 2:20am

aaronk wrote: By the way, the official video on YouTube does not match the US stock 45. I'm not sure if this is a case where the video and 45 edits don't match or if they re-edited the song for better audio quality and goofed on the edits.

Not only does it not match the stock 45, it doesn't match
the original video's audio! It seems to be a newer edit
made for the video, for reasons unknown.]]> Wed, 22 Feb 2017 02:20:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46994&title=madonna-edits#46994 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46992&title=madonna-edits#46992 Author: aaronk
Subject: 545
Posted: 21 February 2017 at 6:13pm

This one sounds right: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcRL5ZR3Bg

Edited by aaronk]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:13:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46992&title=madonna-edits#46992 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46991&title=madonna-edits#46991 Author: JL328
Subject: 545
Posted: 21 February 2017 at 5:23pm

aaronk wrote: By the way, the official video on YouTube does not match the US stock 45. I'm not sure if this is a case where the video and 45 edits don't match or if they re-edited the song for better audio quality and goofed on the edits.

Wow. Thanks. I guess that
would explain it. I'd never considered that the video might not be the
true 45 version. Good news is I guess I'm not crazy. Bad news is that
if the video's off, I don't have a 45 guide. Thanks again.]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:23:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46991&title=madonna-edits#46991 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46988&title=madonna-edits#46988 Author: aaronk
Subject: 545
Posted: 21 February 2017 at 2:39pm

By the way, the official video on YouTube does not match the US stock 45. I'm not sure if this is a case where the video and 45 edits don't match or if they re-edited the song for better audio quality and goofed on the edits.]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:39:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46988&title=madonna-edits#46988 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46987&title=madonna-edits#46987 Author: aaronk
Subject: 545
Posted: 21 February 2017 at 2:32pm

Oops, there are actually two edits on the intro. When Ron posted his times for where the edits occur, I didn't double check that he had included them all. The one not posted is from 0:29 to 0:38, where another :08 has been edited from the intro.

So, you'll have edits at both 0:14 and 0:29 (two :08 edits instead of one :16 edit).]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:32:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46987&title=madonna-edits#46987 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46986&title=madonna-edits#46986 Author: JL328
Subject: 545
Posted: 21 February 2017 at 1:50pm

aaronk wrote: crapfromthepast wrote: In the final version, there are edits at 0:14, 2:04 and 3:09. I added a 32-beat sinusoidal fade at 3:34, then adjusted silence at intro from 1.0 sec to 0.2 sec, then added 2 sec of silence at end. Total run time of 3:51 for my edit. That's exactly right. You'll need to edit out 8 seconds at 0:14, making your edit point on the bass drum. The next section removed is from 2:19 to 2:35 of the LP version; and the final edit is from 3:41 to 3:57 of the LP version, both on the bass drum & first beat of the measure. (Don't worry if they sound choppy; that's how the 45 sounds.) The fade does, indeed, start at 3:34 and goes to 3:51.

Sorry for
bumping, but I've been on an editing kick lately.

I'm having the hardest time with the edit in the intro on Lucky Star. It
seems like there was a consensus in 2007 that the first edit comes at
0:14 but I can't figure out how that's possible.

I'm using the physical CD of the self-titled Madonna as the source for
the LP version and the video as the guide for the 45 version. The vocal
starts at 0:40 on the LP version. It starts at 0:24 on the video (45)
version. So, 16 seconds need to be cut somewhere from the intro.
Above, you all said the intro edit is at 0:14 and lasts for 8 seconds, but
when I make that edit, the intro is much different (and still 8 seconds
longer) than the intro on the video version. And the vocal doesn't start
until 0:32.   

Instead of an 8 second edit at 0:14, what I'm hearing is a 16 second
edit at 0:21. When I cut between 0:21 and 0:37 of the LP version, the
intro matches the video exactly and the vocal starts at 0:24 like it
should. This also matches what's on the Immaculate Collection, minus
all the Q-sound stuff.

So I'm confused. I have the edits like this:

Delete 0:21.216 to 0:37.598 of the LP version
Delete 2:19.390 to 2:35.758 of the LP version
Delete 3:41.359 to 3:57.718 of the LP version
Fade the result from 3:34 to 3:51.

Several expert editors confirmed above that the edit comes at 0:14 so
I'm sure I'm doing something wrong here, but can anybody tell me what
I'm missing?]]> Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:50:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=545&PID=46986&title=madonna-edits#46986