https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 05 May 2026 19:52:12 +0000 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:25:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5470 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25856&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25856 Author: KentT
Subject: 5470
Posted: 10 April 2010 at 6:25am

Another thing to consider was many 1990's radio mixes are difficult to come by for present programmers. Unless they have their old promo CD singles or DJ service discs available. ]]> Sat, 10 Apr 2010 06:25:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25856&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25856 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25830&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25830 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 9:17pm

Hykker wrote: But when DID CHR play songs that old?

I completely agree.

There have been more one-hit wonders since the early '90s than any other time frame.

Wikipedia has a list of one-hit wonders by decade, and it seems to be about the same size for every decade since the '60s. I don't think there have been any more (give or take a few) one-hit wonders in any particular decade.

This is definitely an interesting discussion...]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 21:17:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25830&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25830 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25827&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25827 Author: sriv94
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 6:24pm

Hykker wrote: But when DID CHR play songs that old? While 1995 may seem like yesterday to many of us, to a 25 year old it's an eternity ago. Even back in the 60s & 70s, it was pretty rare to play anything more than 5-6 years old, for that matter in the 80s "hot hits" era many CHRs didn't play any gold at all!

WLS-AM in Chicago was one of the last bastions of a CHR station that played a lot of gold. For about three years (1981-1984), WLS ran kind of a split format that catered more to adults during the day and to teens at night. And the gold played was dayparted accordingly (while daytime hours would feature gold of the pop, A/C and classic rock varieties, nighttime hours any gold would be almost exclusively classic rock).

So naturally as a teen in those years, I preferred WLS' daytime format better. :)

Edited by sriv94]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:24:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25827&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25827 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25823&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25823 Author: Hykker
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 4:07pm

torcan wrote: The week that "Jump" by Kris Kross hit No. 1 it's been downhill ever since.

Wasn't that the #1 song for the year?

Have you also noticed that most hit songs of the '90s and '00s hardly ever get played on the radio in oldies (or recurrent) rotation? I'm much more likely to hear "Don't Stop Believin" by Journey or "My Life" by Billy Joel than I am "Hero" by Mariah Carey (a favorite) or "Shine" by Collective Soul.

I'm seeing Classic Rock move more into the 90s, and away from all but a handful of 60s tunes. "Shine" is in regular rotation on our Classic rocker. As far as Mariah goes, I don't think her songs have aged well (which can be said for a lot of 90s music). Maybe mainstream or soft AC might still play her.

aaronk wrote: One other thing to consider is that CHR today just doesn't play many "gold" category songs at all. When they do, it's even more unlikely that they are going to play songs that are 10 or 15+ years old.

But when DID CHR play songs that old? While 1995 may seem like yesterday to many of us, to a 25 year old it's an eternity ago. Even back in the 60s & 70s, it was pretty rare to play anything more than 5-6 years old, for that matter in the 80s "hot hits" era many CHRs didn't play any gold at all!

]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 16:07:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25823&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25823 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25822&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25822 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 3:05pm

torcan wrote: Have you also noticed that most hit songs of the '90s and '00s hardly ever get played on the radio in oldies (or recurrent) rotation?

I hear lots of '90s music on the radio, especially on the Hot AC formats. True, you don't hear "Jump" by Kris Kross, but I still hear "To Be With You" by Mr. Big, "Right Here, Right Now" by Jesus Jones, and several Matchbox Twenty songs, just to name a few.

One other thing to consider is that CHR today just doesn't play many "gold" category songs at all. When they do, it's even more unlikely that they are going to play songs that are 10 or 15+ years old.]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 15:05:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25822&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25822 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25820&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25820 Author: torcan
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 2:13pm

About today's music...I have to agree that most of it is disposable and uninteresting. For me, it hasn't been the same since 1992. The week that "Jump" by Kris Kross hit No. 1 it's been downhill ever since.

Most of the music I collect and listen to is from the '76-91 time period. Every year I make charts of my favorite songs of the year. During the '80s it was easy to get 100 songs or more. The past few years I have trouble coming up with a year-end top 20. The quality really drops off after that.

I'm just not interested in the rap which continues to dominate. Remember the days where "disco sucks" was a common expression? Give me disco any day over most of today's rap.

Many of the songs which aren't rap for the most part don't have a good melody, or "hook" - in other words, they're not memorable. Sure, there's still "old school" sounding stuff, like Kelly Clarkson, many of the Black Eyed Peas tunes, and more recently Lady Antebellum; but stuff like Kanye West and Lady Gaga, I usually turn off when it comes on. Having most of these songs not be available on physical singles adds to it. There was nothing like buying a new 45 of the latest hit!

There have been more one-hit wonders since the early '90s than any other time frame.

Have you also noticed that most hit songs of the '90s and '00s hardly ever get played on the radio in oldies (or recurrent) rotation? I'm much more likely to hear "Don't Stop Believin" by Journey or "My Life" by Billy Joel than I am "Hero" by Mariah Carey (a favorite) or "Shine" by Collective Soul.]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 14:13:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25820&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25820 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25818&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25818 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 5470
Posted: 06 April 2010 at 11:54am

RichM921 wrote: ...we now have a new champion in that catagory with Ke$ha's "Tik Tok"

I wonder how many of the kids that downloaded this song even know who the singer is talking about when she mentions a certain rock hall of famer by the name of Mick Jagger. I'm sure Mick didn't mind, since he and the Stones haven't top the charts in decades.]]> Tue, 06 Apr 2010 11:54:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25818&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25818 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25815&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25815 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5470
Posted: 05 April 2010 at 8:54pm

Well put, Hykker. I'm also not a big fan of the current hip-hop, although I love the urban music from the late '80s and early '90s (including some songs and albums that are laced with "f" words).

I agree that there are many disposable artists and songs today, but don't you think that's true with any era? I mean, there are a ton of pop songs (chart records) from the last 50 years that are long forgotten by most people. How often to you hear the 1960 #1 record "Mr. Custer" by Larry Verne? Or how often do you hear oldies radio playing "Before The Last Teardrop Falls," by Freddy Fender, a #1 in 1975?

I think every era has its fair share of disposable music, just like we have Ke$ha today; however, I do think that there will be some lasting music that has come out in recent years. Artists like Daughtry, Taylor Swift, and the Black Eyed Peas, for example, are selling millions of records and aren't just one-hit or one-album wonders.]]> Mon, 05 Apr 2010 20:54:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25815&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25815 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25814&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25814 Author: Hykker
Subject: 5470
Posted: 05 April 2010 at 5:02pm

I agree with Aaron. While I'm a bit out of the demo for today's hit music, I still like a lot of new music (granted, I don't keep up with it like I once did). No I don't care for a lot of the hip-hop/urban stuff, but I wasn't too fond of 60s soul/R&B either.
As far as F-bombs go, they go back a lot further than the 90s..."Who Are You" is an example, and who can forget the Fish Cheer.

That having been said, I do think today's music is more "disposable", not so much because of the quality of the music as the fact that there's no "mass appeal" anymore. From Gen X on back, radio was pretty much the only game in town for discovering music and it was more of a cultural bond than it is today. Before mp3 players and web streaming came along, it was a real PITA to make custom music mixes, now anyone can do it and not need to sit thru a song you don't know or like to hear a favorite. That and the fact that music distribution today is almost solely via downloads...you don't have a physical medium anymore, it's just a file on a computer.

]]> Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:02:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25814&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25814 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25813&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25813 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5470
Posted: 05 April 2010 at 4:16pm

bwolfe wrote: Today's music is so disposable.

I'm sure our parents said the same thing about "our" music.

bwolfe wrote: There's just no class with today's music.

Other than the fact that some of today's top 40 songs have censored "f" bombs, I don't think the content of music has gotten much worse over the past 20 years. Looking back 10 years, you had songs like "The Real Slim Shady" by Eminem and "What It's Like" by Everlast. Go back to the early '90s and you had "I Touch Myself" by the Divinyls and "Justify My Love" by Madonna.]]> Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:16:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5470&PID=25813&title=bennie-the-jets-elton-john#25813