https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 11:48:47 +0000 Wed, 08 Jul 2015 23:41:15 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5773 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43950&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43950 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5773
Posted: 08 July 2015 at 11:41pm

Yes, anything that is in mono can now technically be made into a digitally extracted stereo mix, thanks to new software available over the past several years. It's not a simple thing to do, though. Based on what I know about audio editing, just a few minutes of music can take an estimated 40 hours to remix when done properly and carefully so that no digital artifacts can be heard in the end result.]]> Wed, 08 Jul 2015 23:41:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43950&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43950 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43949&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43949 Author: Rockdent
Subject: 5773
Posted: 08 July 2015 at 10:43pm

Thank you Aaron. One more question then, does that mean
that anything recorded in mono can now be made stereo or are
there limits?]]> Wed, 08 Jul 2015 22:43:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43949&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43949 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43946&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43946 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5773
Posted: 06 July 2015 at 7:46pm

Hi Rockdent, you are correct that creating a digitally extracted stereo mix should not add anything new. That said, I suppose it is possible to change the levels of the different instrumentation, vocals, reverb, etc., after they have been digitally extracted. It's also possible just to add reverb using audio editing software.

Although I haven't used it, I'm completely fascinated by what Sony Spectral Layers (and other similar software) can do. In a nutshell, the software allows the user to pick out certain things within the audio frequency spectrum and isolate those elements. I'm sure it takes a special skill and a lot of time to master the software and to be able to create DES mixes that sound good.]]> Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:46:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43946&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43946 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43945&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43945 Author: Rockdent
Subject: 5773
Posted: 06 July 2015 at 7:23pm

I note that on the excellent Hit Parade Records 45 version
in stereo, Pat has added "but with extra reverb." Listening
to an old mono CD and comparing it to the new stereo I do
indeed hear some quick reverb at times on the guitar not on
the mono version. I hear it on the other side from the main
guitar in the mix (on my stereo, the reverb is on the right
channel and guitar in the left). If that is correct, how
can a digital extraction add reverb if it's not on the
original 45 or tape? For that matter I don't really
understand "digitally extract" - do you use record or tape
or both? Just curious about the process thanks. By the way,
I assume that the stereo LP also doesn't have this reverb?]]> Mon, 06 Jul 2015 19:23:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43945&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43945 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43942&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43942 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 5773
Posted: 05 July 2015 at 3:59pm

Thank you to Pat Downey for providing a label scan to me
of his 45... his pressing has a 5N prefix on the disc
before the catalog number, making it a pressing from
1974 or later (London added the 5N prefix to their
labels in early 1974). Needless to say, I did not find
another copy of the disc with that prefix on ebay, so I
suspect it's rather rare...but in this case, it would be
comparable to my Brenton Wood reissue on Double Shot
with the original release #, but the disc being
stereo...so as far as I know, all original 1964
pressings contain the version with the overdubbed vocal.]]> Sun, 05 Jul 2015 15:59:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=43942&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#43942 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34841&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34841 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5773
Posted: 08 August 2012 at 8:57am

My copy states Jumpin' Gene Simmons and since my matrix number ends in -2 this makes sense that your copy would state just Gene Simmons and would have the overdubbed vocals so there really are two different pressings of this 45.]]> Wed, 08 Aug 2012 08:57:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34841&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34841 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34822&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34822 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 5773
Posted: 07 August 2012 at 4:30pm

Pat can you send me a dub of your vinyl 45? Also does your 45 give the artist credit as Gene Simmons or Jumpin' Gene Simmons?

I have vinyl and styrene promotional copies of the 45, both of which credit the artist simply as Gene Simmons (as all of his previous Hi 45s did, leading me to believe these each came before any "Jumpin' Gene Simmons" pressings). The styrene copy has a matrix of Hi-2377-1C and has a TI or T1 on the other side of the deadwax, and my vinyl copy has a matrix of Hi-2377-1B with no other deadwax markings. Both pressings have the overdubbed vocals everywhere in the song that they're supposed to be, and seem to run fairly in sync with each other with an identical fade out, but the vinyl 45 is mastered louder. They both have a listed time of (2:31) but an actual time of (2:29).

Mark, I dug my mini LP out of storage to give it a closer listen and after widening the track I can absolutely hear what you hear. What a strange thing to do to the track.]]> Tue, 07 Aug 2012 16:30:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34822&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34822 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34774&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34774 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 5773
Posted: 01 August 2012 at 10:30am

I hate to confuse matters here but my vinyl 45 matrix number Hi 2377-2 does not have double tracked vocals from :58 to 1:01.]]> Wed, 01 Aug 2012 10:30:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34774&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34774 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34768&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34768 Author: MMathews
Subject: 5773
Posted: 31 July 2012 at 2:18pm

tok me awhile to get to this.
Awhile back Bondy kindly sent me a dub from his mini-LP.
It is indeed true stereo, but we must call it
"technically" true.
We'll never know what the engineer was thinking. during
the first 30 secs or so, the vocal is dead center, and
the backing track is moved to the right. As it continues,
the engineer plays with panning the backing to the
center. On certain beats, he pans it a little to the
left, but then back to center. The second half of the
song is essentially mono because the 2 tracks are both
dead center. Very odd!
I previously heard this mix, but mistakenly thought it
was re-channeled.
This mix appears on Elvira's Haunted Hits, but they
narrowed the channels together so it's basically mono
unless you have software to massively widen the channels.
I widened it out once because i could just make out the
slight pan to the left they did on certain beats.
Again, very odd!

So, to once again summarize, with the help of everyone's
assorted copies - it appears LP version, and stereo mini-
LP version all do not contain the harmony overdub, and
the original hit 45 version does have it.
MM]]> Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:18:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34768&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34768 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34529&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34529 Author: KentT
Subject: 5773
Posted: 30 June 2012 at 5:21am

My Hi Original single has the overdub. My wife's UK London Mono LP does not. My Eric Records reissue single also does not. ]]> Sat, 30 Jun 2012 05:21:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5773&PID=34529&title=jumpin-gene-simmons-haunted-house#34529