https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 04:16:19 +0000 Sun, 28 Nov 2021 11:27:25 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=5869 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=59614&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#59614 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 5869
Posted: 28 November 2021 at 11:27am

Storyteller has what I would call a bright and thin sound
on most of the 80s tracks. It wouldn't surprise me if the
Warner Brothers stuff on that box set was just digitally
compiled from whatever digital album masters were used for
the original first run of WB Rod Stewart CDs. ]]> Sun, 28 Nov 2021 11:27:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=59614&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#59614 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=59612&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#59612 Author: NightAire
Subject: 5869
Posted: 27 November 2021 at 4:23pm

Doers anybody have "Storyteller," and "The Definitive" to compare the EQ on this track between the two releases?

If you believe YouTube, "Storyteller" sounds significantly crisper than The Definitive, so much so that the EQ is bringing different instruments to the forefront and I wondered for a moment if it was a different mix (I now believe they are identical mixes, just wildly different equalization).

The Definitive video is the one that is labeled "2008 remaster" which seems even stranger. Was the original LP / single dull-sounding?

Storyteller was put out in 1989 so unless this was a conscious artistic decision I don't understand why the newer master would sound like it's missing the high end of the older.

I'd love to get some insight on this! I have no vinyl to compare to either CD.

Edited by NightAire]]> Sat, 27 Nov 2021 16:23:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=59612&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#59612 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=40173&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#40173 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 5869
Posted: 08 January 2014 at 8:13pm

I reverse-engineered the Digital 45, and I'm assuming that the Digital 45 has the same edit points as the real 45.

Here are instructions for recreating the 45 edit, using the 4-CD Storyteller (1989) as the source. Finding the edit points was a little tricky, since the song uses a programmed rhythm section that repeats a lot. I'd put my confidence level around 80% for the edit points. The good news is that if I can't hear a misplaced edit, you probably won't be able to, either.

Segment 1:
32 beats long
Extends from 0:00 to 0:12.2 of both the LP version and the 45 edit.
This segment ends on a downbeat.

Remove the 16 beats from 0:12.2 to 0:18.2 of the LP version.

Segment 2:
204 beats long
Extends from 0:18.2 to 1:34.4 of the LP version
Extends from 0:12.2 to 1:28.4 of the 45 edit
This segment ends on a downbeat.

Remove the 16 beats from 1:34.4 to 1:40.3 if the LP version.

Segment 3:
341 beats long (good thing I found a new counter!)
Extends from 1:40.3 to 3:47.6 of the LP version
Extends from 1:28.4 to 3:35.6 of the 45 edit
The segment ends on a snare hit.

Remove the 32 beats from 3:47.6 to 3:59.5 of the LP version.

Segment 4:
112 beats long
Extends from 3:59.5 to 4:41.3 of the LP version
Extends from 3:35.6 to 4:17.4 of the 45 edit
This segment ends on a snare hit.

Remove the 16 beats from 4:41.3 to 4:47.3 of the LP version.

Segment 5:
Starts on a snare hit and extends to end of song
Extends from 4:47.3 to 5:02.9 (end) of the LP version
Extends from 4:17.4 to 4:33.1 (end) of the 45 edit
The LP and 45 use the same fade points

Your mixdown will run 4:31 (excluding the outro silence), with edit points at 0:12.2, 1:28.4, 3:35.6, and 4:17.4.

The song runs at 160.7 BPM.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:13:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=40173&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#40173 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=30257&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#30257 Author: Fetta
Subject: 5869
Posted: 19 May 2011 at 8:15pm

Hey Aaron,

DO you know what the edit points are?

Thanks.

-Jeff]]> Thu, 19 May 2011 20:15:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=30257&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#30257 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27648&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27648 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5869
Posted: 31 August 2010 at 9:57pm

Good info. Thanks!]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:57:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27648&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27648 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27647&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27647 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 5869
Posted: 31 August 2010 at 9:48pm

BTW the digital 45 of "Young Turks" is on iTunes. ]]> Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:48:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27647&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27647 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27602&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27602 Author: aaronk
Subject: 5869
Posted: 28 August 2010 at 10:25pm

No notes in the database, so here's what I came up with for "Young Turks" by Rod Stewart. The 45 is an edit of the LP version and runs 4:34. Printed time on the promo 45 is 4:35.]]> Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:25:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5869&PID=27602&title=rod-stewart-young-turks#27602