https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 06:54:12 +0000 Thu, 26 Mar 2020 22:04:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6138 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53851&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53851 Author: radiofan16
Subject: 6138
Posted: 26 March 2020 at 10:04pm

ChicagoBill wrote: My 45 RPM vinyl single, Mercury 422-862702, has the LP version on Side 1 and the (Edit) on Side 2. The time on Side 2 is listed as 4:29, but the actual time is 4:27. It was typical of vinyl singles to run a couple seconds shorter than their CD or cassette single counterparts.-Bill.

Yes, the AC Mix runs slightly faster than the other mixes.]]> Thu, 26 Mar 2020 22:04:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53851&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53851 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53828&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53828 Author: radiofan16
Subject: 6138
Posted: 25 March 2020 at 2:05am

eriejwg wrote: Turns out there was the Radio Edit, the A/C mix, and a CHR edit. Not sure of the differences between them.

The Radio Edit and CHR mix are the same mix wise, but the latter(as well as
the AC Mix) is mastered louder.

The AC Mix is radically different in the following ways:

The electric guitars have all but disappeared, save for the choruses, and even
then they are mixed way low. You can hear them in the interlude, but the
backwards guitar noise that appears before the final verse has been muted.

The acoustic instruments are brought up in the mix, as is John's voice so you
can understand every syllable he sings. This is especially noticeable during the
last line of the second verse. The word "seed" is barely audible in the LP/Single
versions.

Kenny Aronoff's drums sound louder with more reverb, but whether that's a
result of remixing them or of the natural room ambience we're hearing from
raising them up in the mix is unknown.

Now for the edits:

Cut from 1:30 to 1:43 so the pre-verse interlude starts with the mandolin.

Cut from 3:35 to 3:39

Cut 4:50 to 5:04.

The ending mandolin coda is cut by fading early at 5:16 and lasting for 6
seconds.

Now it's time to crossfade

Crossfade from 2:58 to 3:18

Crossfade from 4:36 to 4:49

And lastly, there's some resequencing.

Take 1:24 to 1:28 and paste it after 5:10

Take 5:01 to 5:03 and paste after 5:14

Take 5:10 to 5:13 and paste it after the previous paste job.

And there you have it. Not easy at all, but doable .]]> Wed, 25 Mar 2020 02:05:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53828&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53828 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53827&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53827 Author: ChicagoBill
Subject: 6138
Posted: 24 March 2020 at 9:17pm

My 45 RPM vinyl single, Mercury 422-862702, has the LP version on Side 1 and the (Edit) on Side 2. The time on Side 2 is listed as 4:29, but the actual time is 4:27. It was typical of vinyl singles to run a couple seconds shorter than their CD or cassette single counterparts.-Bill.]]> Tue, 24 Mar 2020 21:17:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53827&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53827 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53806&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53806 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6138
Posted: 23 March 2020 at 6:24pm

Turns out there was the Radio Edit, the A/C mix, and a CHR
edit. Not sure of the differences between them.]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2020 18:24:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53806&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53806 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53805&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53805 Author: radiofan16
Subject: 6138
Posted: 23 March 2020 at 5:26pm

Bumping this up.]]> Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:26:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=53805&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#53805 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45395&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45395 Author: radiofan16
Subject: 6138
Posted: 12 April 2016 at 8:48pm

ptgraphics wrote: I have this CD single. Listed time is 4:29, when put into iTunes the time is 4:33. The intro does not seem shortened - both the LP and this edit sound the same at the beginning and John starts singing at @ 27 seconds in on both versions. Mercury 862 771-2. Made in Europe. Could not even begin to tell you where the edit points are, sorry. Pat

Email-me your copy and I'll post the edit points.]]> Tue, 12 Apr 2016 20:48:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45395&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45395 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45387&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45387 Author: ptgraphics
Subject: 6138
Posted: 11 April 2016 at 8:38pm

I have this CD single. Listed time is 4:29, when put into iTunes the time is
4:33. The intro does not seem shortened - both the LP and this edit sound
the same at the beginning and John starts singing at @ 27 seconds in on
both versions. Mercury 862 771-2. Made in Europe. Could not even begin to
tell you where the edit points are, sorry.

Pat]]> Mon, 11 Apr 2016 20:38:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45387&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45387 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45355&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45355 Author: Hykker
Subject: 6138
Posted: 05 April 2016 at 6:22am

Don't recall all the edit points offhand, but the intro is
also shortened. ]]> Tue, 05 Apr 2016 06:22:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45355&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45355 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45353&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45353 Author: radiofan16
Subject: 6138
Posted: 05 April 2016 at 1:35am

Bumping this up because I'm a fan of that whole album, how would one go
about recreating this. I would assume the mandolin coda is taken out. ]]> Tue, 05 Apr 2016 01:35:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=45353&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#45353 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=29791&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#29791 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6138
Posted: 13 April 2011 at 7:08pm

It's not indicated in the database, but I just acquired a promo cd single of this song. Mercury CDP 997, Track 1 is the Radio Edit. Listed and actual time is 4:29. Track 2 is the LP version, though I haven't timed it. Listed time is 5:33.]]> Wed, 13 Apr 2011 19:08:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6138&PID=29791&title=john-mellencamp-human-wheels#29791