https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 11:13:11 +0000 Tue, 03 May 2022 13:42:35 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6146 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60765&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60765 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 6146
Posted: 03 May 2022 at 1:42pm

Just documenting some mastering notes for future reference:

Mono 45 version

There is no singing over the end of the horn solo, from 1:52 to 1:55.

I have it on JCI's Dance Sixties (1988). The two channels on the JCI disc fall in and out of synch (break it into mono and invert one of the channels, and you'll hear a mess). I don't think it was deliberate, or (E). As Aaron reported above, you can grab one of the two channels to form a nice truly mono version.

If you crank up the fade, you'll hear the instruments drop out on Jackie's last "higher" and the background singers hit one last "higher". It would have made a terrific cold ending for the song, but the producers went with a fade instead.

Mono LP version

Jackie sings some high notes over the end of the horn solo, from 1:52 to 1:55.

I have the mono LP version on Time-Life's Classic Rock Vol. 5 1967 (1988). It sounds like mud here, with virtually no high end. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Silver Eagle/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Heart And Soul Of The Sixties (1989)

Stereo LP version

Jackie sings some high notes over the end of the horn solo, from 1:52 to 1:55.

I have the stereo LP version in Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1967 (1989). The bass starts in the right channel. At the end of the fade, after Jackie's last "higher", you can hear the background singers start the very last "higher" but it fades to zero before the end of their "higher". The same analog transfer is used on:

• Time-Life's 2-CD Rock Party (1990) - left and right channels swapped, so that bass starts in the left channel; tail of fade is shortened

There's a new analog transfer on Time-Life's Rhythm And Blues Vol. 10 1967 (1991), which has a narrower soundstage than the Rhino disc and has a shortened fade compared to the Rhino disc. The same analog transfer is used on:

• Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 2 1967 (1991)
• JCI's Only Rock 'N Roll 1965-1969 (1994)

There's a new analog transfer on Brunswick's The Brunswick Years Vol. 1 (1995), which has a wider soundstage than any of the above discs, including the Rhino. The bass starts in the right channel. The fade extends out to the very end of the background singers' last "higher". There a bit of a hum on the whole track. I've noticed that hum (and swapped left/right channels) on quite a few tracks from this collection. The same analog transfer (or possibly the same source tape), minus the hum and with its left and right channels swapped, is found on:

• MCA's multi-disc Soul Train 25th Anniversary Hall Of Fame (1995)
• Rhino's Millennium New Soul Party (2000)

I have two additional UK collections that feature the stereo LP version:

• Connoisseur Collection's 100 Dance Hits Of The '70s (1988) runs a little fast and shortens the fade
• the 2-CD Best Northern Soul All-Nighter Ever (2001) also runs too fast and shortens the fade

My recommendations

For the mono 45 version, use JCI's Dance Sixties (1988), but grab the left channel only or the right channel only for a true mono file.

For the stereo LP version, go with Rhino's Millennium New Soul Party (2000), which is inexpensive, features the widest soundstage out there, and removes the hum that's on The Brunswick Years Vol. 1.

There's no earthly reason to listen to the mono LP version on Time-Life's Classic Rock Vol. 5 1967 (1988).]]> Tue, 03 May 2022 13:42:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60765&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60765 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60764&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60764 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6146
Posted: 02 May 2022 at 1:14pm

There's a slight EQ difference between the L/R channels, and it gets "swishy" when summed to mono, so something is slightly out of phase. I can say for sure I took one of the channels only when I created my mono version. This actually sounds more like an improper transfer of the tape on a stereo machine rather than something that has been intentionally doctored into fake stereo.]]> Mon, 02 May 2022 13:14:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60764&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60764 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60763&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60763 Author: Bounder's Bay
Subject: 6146
Posted: 02 May 2022 at 11:52am

So, is it in fact "electronically
rechanneled" i.e. "fake" stereo, or
simply the mono mix indifferently
transferred/mastered in stereo i.e.
with drift/imbalance between
channels due to a fulltrack machine
not being used, and just left as
is, the engineer electing neither
to sum/fold nor to pick one channel
and discard the other?]]> Mon, 02 May 2022 11:52:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60763&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60763 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60762&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60762 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6146
Posted: 01 May 2022 at 3:03pm

AdvprosD wrote: aaronk wrote: Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo version on that CD. Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand what that means.

If something is fake stereo (created back in the day, not
the more recent DES), it usually is just mono with a sort
of "spread" to it, and sometimes it's possible to create
mono from this either by folding the channels, or using
only one channel, or running it through software that
separates out only the slight differences between the
right and left channels and keeps everything that's the
same.]]> Sun, 01 May 2022 15:03:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60762&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60762 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60758&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60758 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6146
Posted: 29 April 2022 at 10:05pm

I might not have summed the channels 50/50, but I was able to extract a nice sounding mono version using that CD.]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2022 22:05:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60758&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60758 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60756&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60756 Author: KentT
Subject: 6146
Posted: 29 April 2022 at 8:00pm

It doesn't. For the mono 45, you need a Brunswick mono 45,
which sounds so much better. I own that 45. ]]> Fri, 29 Apr 2022 20:00:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60756&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60756 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60659&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60659 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 6146
Posted: 10 April 2022 at 2:23pm

AdvprosD wrote: aaronk wrote: Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo version on that CD. Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand what that means.

I think Aaron meant that summing the Left and Right
channels of the re-channeled stereo mix found on JCI's
Dance Sixties CD will result in the mono mix. ]]> Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:23:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60659&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60659 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60658&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60658 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 6146
Posted: 10 April 2022 at 12:53pm

smallworld wrote: The version on this compilation has no "ooooooh" towards the tail end of the instrumental break, before Jackie launches into "I'm so glad...". I presume it's the 45 version. The Spirit Of The 60s: 1969 Still Swinging

I have this set. It is a UK release.]]> Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:53:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60658&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60658 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60657&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60657 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 6146
Posted: 10 April 2022 at 12:52pm

aaronk wrote: Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo version on that CD.

Hmmm, I'm still scratching my head, trying to understand what that means.]]> Sun, 10 Apr 2022 12:52:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60657&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60657 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60652&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60652 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 6146
Posted: 09 April 2022 at 8:48pm

aaronk wrote: Dance Sixties (JCI) is what I use, and I play the song regularly at weddings. I was able to get a nice sounding mono version by using the electronically channeled stereo version on that CD.

Clever thinking Aaron! It sounds great.]]> Sat, 09 Apr 2022 20:48:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6146&PID=60652&title=higher-and-higher-jackie-wilson#60652