https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 07:56:55 +0000 Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:59:54 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6177 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34728&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34728 Author: NightAire
Subject: 6177
Posted: 24 July 2012 at 12:59am

Amazing new info, Aaron... thanks for keeping after this!

Somebody on this board once told me "we've pretty well picked apart the 80s hits; there's nothing new to find out."

XD]]> Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:59:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34728&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34728 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34726&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34726 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6177
Posted: 23 July 2012 at 9:07pm

Updated my previous post with some additional info directly from John Smith of Nu Shooz. Very interesting!]]> Mon, 23 Jul 2012 21:07:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34726&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34726 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34715&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34715 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6177
Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:45pm

Wow, thanks for the extra, excellent import info, Aaron!
Well, after this thread last year i rem-mastered my 45
version treating it as a disc dub (who knew it was really
a double-disc-dub!) and to my ears it sounds fine.
So, i'll say it's a wonder it can sound as good as it
does!
MM]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2012 20:45:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34715&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34715 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34711&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34711 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6177
Posted: 22 July 2012 at 2:50pm

I finally was able to obtain a copy of the Injection 12" which contains both the Dutch Mix and American Mix. To my surprise, the American Mix is not the same as the Poolside 7" version. It is this 5:54 American Mix that was used to create the Dutch Mix.

I can now confirm that no multi-track tapes were used to create the Dutch Mix. The remixer, Peter Slaghuis, simply used the long American Mix, rearranged the parts, and added overdubs. The ticks and sibilance on the import 12" are identical to every copy released by Atlantic.

So, John Smith's recollection above seems to be pretty accurate. After the longer American Mix was relased on vinyl (still trying to confirm where), it was used as the basis of the Dutch Mix.

UPDATE: After emailing with John, it was able to confirm that Atlantic did obtain a tape copy of the Dutch Mix. They did not dub it from the import 12". The vinyl noise is still present, though, because Peter played along with the vinyl when he did his overdubs.

Here is an interesting bit of info direction from the artist:

IT ALL CAME FROM THE SAME TAPE, BUT PIEDER DUBBED IT ON TO 2TR [I'M ASSUMING 1/2"] AND PLAYED OVER THEM LIVE WITH HIS EMULATOR II TO MAKE THE PIECES, THEN RAZOR BLADED THE PIECES TOGETHER TO MAKE HIS REMIX. HE WAS GREAT WITH A RAZOR BLADE. I LEARNED A COUPLE TRICKS FROM HIM, EVEN THOUGH HE BARELY SPOKE ENGLISH. THIS IS WHY THE REMIX IS DULLER THAN THE AMERICAN MIX. BUT THEN, THAT WAS ISSUED ONLY ON CASSETTE, [AND UNMASTERED,] SO WHO KNOWS?
IT'S ALSO THE SAME TAPE THAT ATLANTIC USED TO MAKE THE 12", THOUGH THEY SENT IT TO A MASTERING LAB, (WHICH PROBABLY ADDED SOME OF THE SIBILANCE YOU'RE HEARING.) FOR SOME REASON WE ALWAYS HAD SIBILANCE PROBLEMS WITH VALERIE, MOST NOTABLY ON "SHOULD I SAY YES" WHICH WE HAD TO KEEP SENDING BACK TO THE PRESSING PLANT SIX OR SEVEN TIMES.

Edited by aaronk]]> Sun, 22 Jul 2012 14:50:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=34711&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#34711 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29806&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29806 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 8:04pm

I just might try it!]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:04:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29806&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29806 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29804&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29804 Author: NightAire
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 5:51pm

I'm with Aaron! The thing I notice on the 12" is the slurring & sibilance on the vocals; if there would be a way to get a clean copy of the original Dutch 12", & it could be transferred using professional equipment, the resulting digital copy could be a sonic revelation.]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:51:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29804&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29804 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29802&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29802 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 3:39pm

... (duplicate post)

Edited by aaronk]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:39:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29802&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29802 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29801&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29801 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 3:36pm

MMathews wrote: To my ears only one vinyl dubbing was used (but that's one too many, of course!)

I wonder if the song would sound better if it were taken from a nice, clean copy of the Injection Disco 12". After all, that's what Atlantic did. I'd be willing to bet there are people on this board with far better editing equipment (and skills) than what Atlantic had access to in 1986.]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:36:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29801&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29801 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29800&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29800 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 12:25pm

Yes, i concur with Aaron....

I think John added an extra "transfer to vinyl" in his time-line, as it obvious Mr. Slaghuis had access to all of the tracks in the multi, and then of course added his extra production.
To my ears only one vinyl dubbing was used (but that's one too many, of course!)
I've discovered from my own experience that artists don't always remember every detail just is they happened, but that would apply to all of us!
I always like when they take the trouble to answer their fans, even for technical questions. Shows such respect. :-)
At least the copies we have of the song can be cleaned and clarified to sound quite decent for their time.

-MM]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 12:25:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29800&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29800 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29799&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29799 Author: sriv94
Subject: 6177
Posted: 14 April 2011 at 8:30am

NightAire wrote: Why didn't Casey Casem tell me about all this back in the day? ;-)

He was too busy grousing about having to read another death dedication. :)

And thirded on the great detective work. ]]> Thu, 14 Apr 2011 08:30:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6177&PID=29799&title=nu-shooz-i-cant-wait#29799