https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 03:38:53 +0000 Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:45:09 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6261 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47899&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47899 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 6261
Posted: 15 August 2017 at 9:45am

It was a creation by Bob Radil, if I'm not
mistaken. I too have the same file, but
still prefer my test pressing 45, which is
mono on both sides.]]> Tue, 15 Aug 2017 09:45:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47899&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47899 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47897&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47897 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 6261
Posted: 15 August 2017 at 7:11am

Andy, the file John sent me sounded just as you described it. That "Shambala-ized" fake stereo part on the piano coda still doesn't hide the weird-sounding edit at 3:34, at least when listening to it in stereo. Interestingly enough, when folded to mono, that edit doesn't leap out at all. Seems a bit ironic that a stereo replication attempt would sound smoother in mono at that particular point, than it does in stereo.

The bigger problem is that the four piano notes that kick off the piano coda at 3:18 during the crossfade on the stereo 45/LP version (and which appear in-the-clear at 3:28 on the mono DJ 45) were not removed from the stereo replication attempt. As a result, they appear at *both* 3:18 and 3:28, making it a "neither the 45/LP nor mono DJ 45 version" in T40MOCD parlance.]]> Tue, 15 Aug 2017 07:11:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47897&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47897 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47896&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47896 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 6261
Posted: 15 August 2017 at 5:07am

To eriejwg:

Quite a few years ago, a file circulated that combined the missing mono-elements of the promo 45 with the stereo version. The mono passage was cleverly "Shambala"-styled rechanneled to minimize disturbance while listening on headphones.

I don't remember who did it, but I do remember it was somebody from our forum or the BSN forum.

It's very good! It's the only version I have in my laptop for DJ gigs. You possibly have the same custom file!

Andy]]> Tue, 15 Aug 2017 05:07:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47896&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47896 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47895&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47895 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6261
Posted: 14 August 2017 at 7:46pm

John, Yah Shure, just dissected the stereo 3:55 file
and, turns out, it doesn't match the mono promo.
Perhaps, someone at some point sent me a DES version?
The mystery continues.]]> Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:46:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47895&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47895 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47894&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47894 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 6261
Posted: 14 August 2017 at 7:36pm

Good question!

Discogs can help a little bit. Here are the matrix numbers for the 45s in question:

157752 - mono promo 45 version of "All I Know", printed 3:48, actual 3:55
157753 - stereo version of "All I Know", printed 3:48, actual 3:46; appears on promo 45 and commercial 45; this is the version that's available on CD
157754 - stereo version of "Mary Was An Only Child", printed 3:39; appears as B-side of commercial 45; unsure what's actually on the B-side of the SD/QUAD promo 45
157755 - listed on promo 45 of "All I Know" as "SQ*/QUAD", where the asterisk says that is fully compatible and may be played on conventional stereo equipment, printed 3:48, actual ?

Anyone have any more details to fill in?

By the way, the stereo mix of "All I Know" fades the orchestral part starting around 3:13, and crossfades into the piano part, which become audible around 3:18. The mono mix lets the orchestral part run at full volume until its hits a final note at 3:24. In the mono mix, the piano part has its first note coinciding with the final note of the orchestral part, at 3:24. The first few notes of the piano part are hidden by the crossfade in the stereo mix.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:36:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47894&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47894 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47892&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47892 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6261
Posted: 14 August 2017 at 3:16pm

John, (Yah Shure), was kind enough to send me a copy of
his mono DJ 45. My stereo version matches the ending of
the 3:55 DJ 45.

What is the source of this longer 3:55 stereo version?]]> Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:16:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47892&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47892 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47891&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47891 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6261
Posted: 14 August 2017 at 12:24pm

The reason I ask is that my copy, in stereo, runs 3:55
and does not sound like a crossfade.

Could someone send me a clean dub of the mono promo so I
could compare?]]> Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:24:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47891&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47891 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47890&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47890 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6261
Posted: 14 August 2017 at 12:22pm

Does the longer fade from the 1988 Garfunkel CD
match the mono promo, but in stereo?]]> Mon, 14 Aug 2017 12:22:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47890&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47890 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47888&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47888 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 6261
Posted: 13 August 2017 at 7:52pm

Three points here:

(1) I got to hear the mono promo 45 version, and agree that the ending is far better here than on the commercially-released versions.

(2) I got to hear the version from Columbia's Garfunkel CD from 1988, and found it preferable to all the versions I have on compilations for two reasons. First, the fade on Garfunkel extends for about five seconds longer than any other disc. Second, all the compilation disc versions are digital clones of Time-Life's Superhits Vol. 13 1973 and AM Gold Vol. 3 1973 (both 1992; AM Gold was later repackaged as Superhits), which has its left and right channels swapped. Specifically, the following discs are digital clones of Superhits:

• Time-Life's 2-CD Body Talk Vol. 9 Magic Moments (1996) - differently-EQ'd digital clone
• Time-Life's Body Talk The Language Of Love (1998) - digitally identical to Body Talk Vol. 9 Magic Moments
• Time-Life's 2-CD Singers And Songwriters Vol. 1 1972-1973 (2000) - digitally identical to Superhits
• Time-Life's Ultimate Love Songs Collection Almost Paradise (2004) - digitally identical to Body Talk

(3) Spacehog's "In The Meantime" (1996) fades from a loud guitar part to a mellow piano ending. One of my favorite mid-'90s pop songs.]]> Sun, 13 Aug 2017 19:52:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=47888&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#47888 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=37792&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#37792 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6261
Posted: 26 May 2013 at 1:29am

....during which the fish flops in the video. I can't
think of the ending of "Epic" without the flopping fish...]]> Sun, 26 May 2013 01:29:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6261&PID=37792&title=garfunkel-all-i-know#37792