Top 40 Music on CD Forum : swv rain https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 29 Apr 2026 09:14:54 +0000 Mon, 14 Apr 2025 11:52:11 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6369 <![CDATA[Top 40 Music on CD Forum]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ <![CDATA[swv rain : I&#039;ve updated the database...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66393&title=swv-rain#66393 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6369
Posted: 14 April 2025 at 11:52am

I've updated the database with this info. Thanks so much!]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2025 11:52:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66393&title=swv-rain#66393 <![CDATA[swv rain : aaronk wrote:This is another...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66389&title=swv-rain#66389 Author: mburt1
Subject: 6369
Posted: 14 April 2025 at 7:47am

Originally posted by aaronk aaronk wrote:

This is another one of those confusing cases, because I went looking for a vinyl 45 just now, and there isn't one. What the database is referring to is the cassette single, which was apparently mistimed in the Whitburn book at one point.

It looks like SWV's Greatest Hits is where the 4:12 version originates from, which can possibly be more accurately described as "faded :10 early." My copy of this CD is in storage, so if anyone has it accessible, can you let me know when the first drum beat starts? The promo CD has the first beat at 0:08.5. Given that the song has a fade in with rain sound effects, it's possible both the beginning and end were trimmed for Greatest Hits.

In any case, no database notation will be needed, as the single version and LP version are the same.

I have this version on both the Greatest Hits and another compilation, S.O.U.L., and the first beat is at 0:03.6. The intro is definitely faded in quickly and the song fades out about 5 seconds earlier than the album version.

]]> Mon, 14 Apr 2025 07:47:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66389&title=swv-rain#66389 <![CDATA[swv rain : This is another one of those confusing...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66230&title=swv-rain#66230 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6369
Posted: 26 March 2025 at 6:15am

This is another one of those confusing cases, because I went looking for a vinyl 45 just now, and there isn't one. What the database is referring to is the cassette single, which was apparently mistimed in the Whitburn book at one point.

It looks like SWV's Greatest Hits is where the 4:12 version originates from, which can possibly be more accurately described as "faded :10 early." My copy of this CD is in storage, so if anyone has it accessible, can you let me know when the first drum beat starts? The promo CD has the first beat at 0:08.5. Given that the song has a fade in with rain sound effects, it's possible both the beginning and end were trimmed for Greatest Hits.

In any case, no database notation will be needed, as the single version and LP version are the same.]]> Wed, 26 Mar 2025 06:15:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66230&title=swv-rain#66230 <![CDATA[swv rain : Now that we&#039;ve recently determined...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66226&title=swv-rain#66226 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 6369
Posted: 26 March 2025 at 12:19am

Now that we've recently determined that the CD single was the most dominant format in 1998, outselling cassette singles by more than a two-to-one margin, according to RIAA data, I agree with Ed that the commercial CD single of SWV's "Rain" should be considered the official single version. Therefore, database CDs that currently contain a "45 length" comment will need to be revised accordingly.

By the way, according to Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual 1950-2023 reference book, the run time listed for "Rain" is now 4:21, so it appears then that the previously reported cassette single run time of 4:16 was incorrect.]]> Wed, 26 Mar 2025 00:19:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=66226&title=swv-rain#66226 <![CDATA[swv rain : Joel Whitburn lists the cassette...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=31005&title=swv-rain#31005 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 6369
Posted: 19 July 2011 at 5:17pm

Joel Whitburn lists the cassette single as the Billboard official 45 version.]]> Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:17:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=31005&title=swv-rain#31005 <![CDATA[swv rain : from 1998 on i use the cd single...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=30968&title=swv-rain#30968 Author: edtop40
Subject: 6369
Posted: 18 July 2011 at 5:42pm

from 1998 on i use the cd single as the dominant format, so i will need to disagree with you supposition.....that being said i don't have the cassingle for this song.....anyone else have the data pat is asking for?]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2011 17:42:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=30968&title=swv-rain#30968 <![CDATA[swv rain : I believe the database states...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=30956&title=swv-rain#30956 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 6369
Posted: 18 July 2011 at 11:39am

I believe the database states 45 length and LP length Ed. Joel Whitburn reports the cassette single as running (4:16) so do you have the cassette single to time and verify that there really is no "version" issue here just a "length" issue? The cassette single (not the cd single) would be the proper format to use when determining either "length" or "version" since this song charted in 1998.]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:39:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=30956&title=swv-rain#30956 <![CDATA[swv rain : my commercial cd single for the...]]> https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6369&PID=30947&title=swv-rain#30947 Author: edtop40
Subject: 6369
Posted: 17 July 2011 at 4:59pm

my commercial cd single for the swv (sisters with voices) song "rain" issued as rca 65402 contains the below tracks

1-rain (lp version) (4:25 listed; 4:21 actual)
2-lose myself (lp version) (4:38 listed; 4:41 actual)

it's odd that the db states a 4:12 run time version as the "45 version" when it should be the cd single version running 4:21

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