https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 06:27:06 +0000 Mon, 25 Jul 2022 04:16:01 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6424 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61328&title=bananarama-venus#61328 Author: kaqueno
Subject: 6424
Posted: 25 July 2022 at 4:16am

mjb50 wrote: It's just a slowed-down sample of the ladies' vocals from 0:31.

Thanks Mike]]> Mon, 25 Jul 2022 04:16:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61328&title=bananarama-venus#61328 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61325&title=bananarama-venus#61325 Author: mjb50
Subject: 6424
Posted: 24 July 2022 at 7:16pm

It's just a slowed-down sample of the ladies' vocals from 0:31.]]> Sun, 24 Jul 2022 19:16:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61325&title=bananarama-venus#61325 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61324&title=bananarama-venus#61324 Author: kaqueno
Subject: 6424
Posted: 24 July 2022 at 3:54pm

Magnificent description of this single Ron.
On the other hand, I always wondered if Rick Astley
participates with his voice at the end of the song,
saying "Venus was her name", at approximately 2.57
minutes, does anyone know this information or have more
information about it?

Edited by kaqueno]]> Sun, 24 Jul 2022 15:54:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61324&title=bananarama-venus#61324 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61311&title=bananarama-venus#61311 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 6424
Posted: 23 July 2022 at 12:57pm

PopArchivist wrote: Ron, Before I read the whole thing I was like "he is going to say pick up Billboard Top Pop Hits 1986...."what a shocker lol! I will say of all the comps I always like the Rhino series Billboard Top Hits. My only complaint back then was you have 10 songs at 39 minutes could they have at least filled the disc up with some space (or given us 1980/1981 on the same CD). Why can only time life of that period do that?

In Rhino's case, I think it was simply to keep the costs
down. Even with their big time distribution, they
operated more or less like a boutique label. The
Billboard sets were originally conceived with vinyl and
cassette in mind so by the time the CD took prevalence,
they still wanted to stick to only 10 tracks to keep it
uniform. The good news is that, even with only 10 tracks,
we still wound up with a lot of great transfers for many
hits across decades. ]]> Sat, 23 Jul 2022 12:57:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61311&title=bananarama-venus#61311 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61309&title=bananarama-venus#61309 Author: mjb50
Subject: 6424
Posted: 23 July 2022 at 12:40am

Hmm... the UK box set In a Bunch... · The Singles 1981–1993 has all the 12" versions, but for the 7" they have just a 3:29 early fade running at 125.2 BPM. Was the song ever actually released in this length?


Edited by mjb50]]> Sat, 23 Jul 2022 00:40:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61309&title=bananarama-venus#61309 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61306&title=bananarama-venus#61306 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 6424
Posted: 22 July 2022 at 3:44pm

Ron, Before I read the whole thing I was like "he is going to say pick up Billboard Top Pop Hits 1986...."what a shocker lol!

I will say of all the comps I always like the Rhino series Billboard Top Hits. My only complaint back then was you have 10 songs at 39 minutes could they have at least filled the disc up with some space (or given us 1980/1981 on the same CD). Why can only time life of that period do that?

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2022 15:44:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61306&title=bananarama-venus#61306 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61305&title=bananarama-venus#61305 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 6424
Posted: 22 July 2022 at 2:36pm

LP and 45 versions

The LP and 45 (both US and UK) are the same versions, running 3:48.

Of the 22 versions I have for "Venus", I traced all the masterings back to just two analog transfers for this song.

One analog transfer is used on London's Bananarama Greatest Hits Collection (1988), where it runs at 125.6 BPM throughout, but fades early to about 3:38. The following discs all use the same analog transfer as Greatest Hits Collection (all run 3:37 or 3:38 except where noted, 125.6 BPM throughout):

• a Dutch multi-artist compilation pressed in Germany called Hits On CD Vol. 5 (Mercury, 1986) - it came out two before GH, but I'm not going to attempt to untangle that detail
• Sandstone's Rock The First Vol. 1 (1992) - 60 Hz hum
• a cheapie European 4-CD collection called Disco Fever (1993) - faded early to 3:33
• EMI Virgin PolyGram's 2-CD Now 1986 (1993) - faded early to 3:27
• Priority's Rock Of The '80s Vol. 4 (1993)
• Razor & Tie's 2-CD Awesome '80s (1994) - 60 Hz hum
• Simitar's Number Ones: Party Time (1998)
• EMI Virgin PolyGram's 2-CD Now The Millennium Series 1986 (1999)
• EMI's 2020 rerelease of Now 7 - mastered way too loud

The other analog transfer runs at 126.1 BPM throughout and runs out to the full 45/LP length of 3:48. I suspect (but can't confirm) that it originated on the full-length Bananarama True Confessions album, which first appeared on CD in Europe in 1986. The following discs all use the same analog transfer as (I think) True Confessions (all running 3:47 or 3:48, 126.1 BPM throughout):

• Cema's Entertainment Weekly Presents Rock Archives Vol. 2 (1990) - clips a bit around -3 dB
• swaitek's 50-CD promo set for radio The A List Disc 34 (1994) - has a lot of added noise reduction; avoid
• Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1986 (1994)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 4 1986 (1994)
• JCI's Only Dance 1985-1989 (1995)
• Razor & Tie's promo Razor & Tie 1995 Sampler No. 4 (1995) - I suspect that the Razor & Tie 1995 rerelease of True Confessions also uses the same analog transfer, but I can't confirm
• Rhino's Hang The DJ 1986 (1996) - digitally exactly 1.431 dB quieter than Billboard
• EMI's Rock 'N Roll Relix 1986-1987 (1998) - differently EQ'd digital clone of Rock Archives Vol. 2, so also includes clipping
• Rhino's Runway Hits Music From The Catwalk (1998) - mastered too loud and clips a lot
• Rhino's Instant Party Irresistible '80s (2001)
• Rhino's 7-CD Like Omigod (2002) - mastered too loud and clips a lot

My recommendation

Pick up Rhino's Billboard Top Hits 1986 (1994). It's cheap and it sounds great for "Venus".]]> Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:36:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=61305&title=bananarama-venus#61305 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=45935&title=bananarama-venus#45935 Author: Indy500
Subject: 6424
Posted: 18 July 2016 at 5:07pm

Finally have the "Fire & Brimstone" 12" mix on cd. 2016 3 cd set Classic Pop 12 Inch from Rhino UK.

Runs 6:39

Classic Pop is a GREAT magazine by the way if you love 80's music.]]> Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:07:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=45935&title=bananarama-venus#45935 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=31304&title=bananarama-venus#31304 Author: Indy500
Subject: 6424
Posted: 19 August 2011 at 2:00pm

Fetta wrote: Hi Indy500, The Unidisc Collection is great (I think I own all 16 Volumes) but some of mixes they used were a little strange including the Venus... -Jeff

Maybe it's one of the dub versions but I no longer have the original promo to compare it to.]]> Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:00:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=31304&title=bananarama-venus#31304 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=31300&title=bananarama-venus#31300 Author: Fetta
Subject: 6424
Posted: 19 August 2011 at 4:12am

Hi Indy500,

The Unidisc Collection is great (I think I own all 16 Volumes) but some of mixes they used were a little strange including the Venus...

If interested, I do own the "Fire & Brimstone Mix" from a digital source... Unfortunately it is an MP3 (320) but I can send your way if interested.

-Jeff]]> Fri, 19 Aug 2011 04:12:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6424&PID=31300&title=bananarama-venus#31300