https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 09:54:04 +0000 Fri, 17 May 2024 11:29:29 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6435 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64775&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64775 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 6435
Posted: 17 May 2024 at 11:29am

mjb50 wrote: Thanks for the update. I'm unable to verify the tape drag issue. I have a couple of BPM counters, but I find they disagree with each other, as well as themselves, so I'm hesitant to place much faith in them. John, that YouTube clip you linked is using a CD source, I think the Totally '80s mastering. I would not infer anything about the actual 45 length from that. People have a habit of misrepresenting things like that, showing pictures of vinyl records as the audio from a CD plays. I much prefer the clips where there's obvious vinyl noise or where you can see the record on the turntable. However, I made a mistake when I said my 45 plays 4:11. It plays 4:17! It's the 12" that fades out at 4:11. What I said about the overall speed being almost identical to that of the CD mastering, though, is correct. I'm happy to share my transfer for further analysis. David, to be fair, since the only differences are in how certain elements are panned, it's quite understandable that no one would notice. In fact, I feel I'm being quite the nitpicker here!

Check Your PM's, I have an update for you.]]> Fri, 17 May 2024 11:29:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64775&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64775 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64769&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64769 Author: NightAire
Subject: 6435
Posted: 15 May 2024 at 11:40am

Aaron, I believe you've talked me out of it. XD]]> Wed, 15 May 2024 11:40:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64769&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64769 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64766&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64766 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6435
Posted: 14 May 2024 at 8:27am

NightAire wrote: I can't believe I'm being this OCD, but I guess we're all in this boat together... Would it be correct to say that to match the original promo 45, you'd want to slow the entire "After Hours" copy down 0.364%, then starting about 2 minutes in to the end, use a dynamic speed increase (what Adobe Audition calls a "Gliding Stretch") to go from the reduced speed to a 0.6% increase in speed by the end of the file? ...yes, I'm really trying to get THAT close. No, nobody will notice or care but me. :-D

The trouble I ran into is that it's not a gradual slowdown. What I noticed is that there are spots where it slows down just a tiny bit and then remains constant for a while. I tried to correct the CD version as much as possible, but I'm sure it's not 100% perfect.]]> Tue, 14 May 2024 08:27:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64766&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64766 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64765&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64765 Author: kaqueno
Subject: 6435
Posted: 14 May 2024 at 7:20am

Regarding the edited version, a while ago I downloaded the
one digitized by DjPaulT and the sound is excellent, I
think it is no longer available for download.
]]> Tue, 14 May 2024 07:20:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64765&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64765 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64762&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64762 Author: NightAire
Subject: 6435
Posted: 14 May 2024 at 12:49am

I can't believe I'm being this OCD, but I guess we're all in this boat together...

Would it be correct to say that to match the original promo 45, you'd want to slow the entire "After Hours" copy down 0.364%, then starting about 2 minutes in to the end, use a dynamic speed increase (what Adobe Audition calls a "Gliding Stretch") to go from the reduced speed to a 0.6% increase in speed by the end of the file?

...yes, I'm really trying to get THAT close. No, nobody will notice or care but me. :-D]]> Tue, 14 May 2024 00:49:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64762&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64762 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64761&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64761 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6435
Posted: 13 May 2024 at 7:16pm

I had a chance to dub my promo 45 today. The CD version on After Hours definitely slows down and does not stay in sync with the 45. Again, it's not drastic.

I started by slowing down the CD by 0.364%, and the first half of the song stayed pretty much perfectly in sync. Starting around the 2:00 mark, the CD gradually slows down just enough that by the end, the two files are off by about one beat.]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 19:16:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64761&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64761 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64760&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64760 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 6435
Posted: 13 May 2024 at 7:07pm

Revisiting my post from a mere 13 years ago...

I'd played my commercial 45, Geffen 28562, on my Technics 1200 turntable, and discovered that it ran 4:16 and 128.8 BPM throughout. There's no tape drag on the source tape two-track mixdown.

On After Hours, it starts off at 129.3 BPM and ends at 128.5 BPM. That's a drop in speed of about 0.6%, which is not really noticeable over the course of the song. If you're beat-matching, you'll notice, but if you're just listening by ear, it'll sound just fine.

mjb - I still can't believe you found the difference between the LP and 45 mixes! That's an impressive piece of listening, especially since the rest of the mix sounds basically the same for the LP and 45.]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 19:07:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64760&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64760 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64759&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64759 Author: davidclark
Subject: 6435
Posted: 13 May 2024 at 6:15pm

As Aaron stated, I never noticed the tape drag either. Not like with "Rinky
Dink" and "Le Freak" on some CDs.

And yes, we are all proud of our nitpicking - that's what we do best! lol

Edited by davidclark]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 18:15:35 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64759&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64759 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64757&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64757 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6435
Posted: 13 May 2024 at 12:53pm

The tape drag Ron is referring to is a difference in speed when you compare the beginning vs. the end. It's not something I would've noticed with my ears, as it doesn't get to the point of sounding slow.

Given mjb50's observation that his 45 dub stays pretty well synced up, I wonder if that's not a problem with the CD but rather recorded on the single master that way. Also, the sound quality of this song on After Hours is pretty nice, in my opinion.]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 12:53:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64757&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64757 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64756&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64756 Author: Bellenger1981
Subject: 6435
Posted: 13 May 2024 at 8:11am

Nitpicking? Not at all. That's what we are here
to discuss. Nice find! ]]> Mon, 13 May 2024 08:11:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6435&PID=64756&title=wang-chung-everybody-have-fun-tonight#64756