https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 23:36:59 +0000 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:58:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6668 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37508&title=dreams-gabrielle#37508 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6668
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 3:58pm

Same here, Erie. And yup, that is the exact mix we heard
on Z-100 in NY.   
MM]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:58:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37508&title=dreams-gabrielle#37508 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37507&title=dreams-gabrielle#37507 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 6668
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 3:31pm

Was there an official edit of the "Arrested Developed" mix?
I've only seen the full 6:25 version. I would LOVE a
shorter version of the edit.]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:31:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37507&title=dreams-gabrielle#37507 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37505&title=dreams-gabrielle#37505 Author: musicmanatl
Subject: 6668
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 9:06am

Loveland, I had forgotten all about "Fast Car" being the original sample in "Dreams"! Thanks so much for the YouTube link. It really works well.

Frank]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:06:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37505&title=dreams-gabrielle#37505 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37501&title=dreams-gabrielle#37501 Author: Loveland
Subject: 6668
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 6:45am

MMathews wrote: Loveland, i sent you PM about Gabrielle. and yes, i have a feeling i was hearing the Development Arrested mix as well. I don't have either anymore, but i remember buying the CD Maxi single, and being disappointed, as the slower LP version was not what i was hearing - so i then bought the vinyl 12" single and that did have the faster house style mix i knew. But in the Magnolia movie, it was indeed the LP version that William H Macy ('Quiz Kid Donnie Smith') constantly played in his car. For those who missed this film, if you don't see it for the award winning songs by Aimee Mann, or Tom Cruise's only Oscar worthy performance, see it for the only film you'll ever see with a genuine storm of raining frogs. :-) MM

I LOVE the movie. And yes, Tom was robbed of an Oscar. He was amazing on the movie. Technically speaking, the version included on the soundtrack is the "7" Version".

Did you guys know that this is song is even older? It was first released in 1991, on the U.K. indie Victim Records. The original version samples Tracy Chapman's Fast Car. Upon it's 12" release, the song became massive on the
clubs. It's not a house song, instead the song has more of a Soul II Soul vibe. The original 12" sold like hotcakes, supply for the record couldn't keep up with the demand. A second vinyl maxi single was issued in 1992, with
3 additional mixes (none of them house mixes). After a lengthy battle, Go! Beat / Go! Discs "won" the battle to release the song without the sample, as Tracy Chapman refused to give clearance. Boooooo to her! Of course this
was her loss as the single sold millions around the world.

Well, after months of legal battling Go! Beat finally get the all-clear to unleash Gabrielle's Dreams. "Dreams" began its eventful career as a much sought after and very hard to find white
label. The inevitable happened as demand slowly but surely began to outweigh supply! As a result "Dreams" gradually amassed unprecedented underground acclaim. If were to stick our necks out, we'd say that "Dreams" in its
original form was probably one of the most important underground hits of the last 18 months!

"Dreams is now signed to Go! Beat. Re-recorded with producer Richie Fermie (Monie Love, Jungle Brothers), mixed by Rollo of Our Tribe and Johnny Jay of Family Foundation, it is a package to be reckoned with. "Dreams" is just
the beginning for Gabrielle with further singles under way and an album already planned.


The U.K. CD Maxi of "Rise" includes "Dreams" as track 3. It's labeled as the "Original Mix". It isn't. So don't waste your money. Here's the real original mix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLagXFf-bX4#!

This is The Developed Arrested Mix (an edit of this mix is what was played by radio stations):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdBq5LXMuXY

The Red Underground Mix:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Ug_GJPbMA

Of the two Development Corporation mixes, The Developed Arrested Mix is the vocal mix, while The Red Underground Mix is the dub mix.


Edited by Loveland]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 06:45:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37501&title=dreams-gabrielle#37501 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37500&title=dreams-gabrielle#37500 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6668
Posted: 26 April 2013 at 1:17am

Loveland,
i sent you PM about Gabrielle. and yes, i have a feeling
i was hearing the Development Arrested mix as well.

I don't have either anymore, but i remember buying the CD
Maxi single, and being disappointed, as the slower LP
version was not what i was hearing - so i then bought the
vinyl 12" single and that did have the faster house style
mix i knew.
But in the Magnolia movie, it was indeed the LP version
that William H Macy ('Quiz Kid Donnie Smith') constantly
played in his car.
For those who missed this film, if you don't see it for
the award winning songs by Aimee Mann, or Tom Cruise's
only Oscar worthy performance, see it for the only film
you'll ever see with a genuine storm of raining frogs.
:-)
MM]]> Fri, 26 Apr 2013 01:17:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37500&title=dreams-gabrielle#37500 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37495&title=dreams-gabrielle#37495 Author: musicmanatl
Subject: 6668
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 4:11pm

Hello all - in Atlanta, I believe the Arrested Development Mix was the one that received airplay. I remember it well from '93. I really got into Gabrielle in 2000 after "Rise" hit #1 in the UK (man, what an awesome record - how that missed in the US is a mystery and a crime). I heard the original mix of "Dreams" around that time and was surprised because up to that point, I only knew of the Arrested Development Mix.

Frank]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:11:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37495&title=dreams-gabrielle#37495 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37494&title=dreams-gabrielle#37494 Author: Loveland
Subject: 6668
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 2:41pm

MMathews wrote: Whoa, "Magnolia" one of my favorite films of all time, but anyone who hasn't seen will not understand the previous post. Regarding "Dreams" ... did any other market play the faster, uptempo club mix? Z-100 played what was apparently a radio edit of the 12" single. Was wondering if that edit was on a promo. MM

No kidding, I found that out the hard way. The red text above is a direct quote from the Oscar-nominated movie "Magnolia"; those words are uttered by Tom Cruise's character (he
received a Best Supporting Actor Oscar nomination), and it's the MOST memorable scene on the movie, and it's possibly the most-quoted line from the movie. If you haven't seen the
movie, I highly recommended it. Since we are all adults, I didn't think it would be an issue. It's an Oscar-nominated movie, not some smut. :) It's not really cursing, they are
just body parts. Ha ha ha.

Anyhoo, back to the topic. Yes, the edit of The Developed Arrested Mix was played by quite a few stations. I was living in Miami back then and if I remember correctly, although
I'm not 100% sure, Power 96 in Miami was the first station to spin the edit of The Developed Arrested Mix. It spread like wildfire from there. I believe airplay of the house mix
eventually surpassed airplay of the 7" Version.

The weird part is that it seems that Go! Discs did not want to position Gabrielle as a dance diva? All of the mixes available, only The Development Corporation (The Developed
Arrested Mix and The Red Underground Mix) mixes were true house mixes. The were also mixes by Rob D. & Rollo (sort of dance mixes, but not proper four on the floor mixes); the
rest of the mixes were downtempo (MESS!). Go! Discs U.S. did not even bother to commission new U.S. mixes.   Go! Discs issued a commercial cassette single and a commercial CD Maxi
single, and for whatever reason, they left off (on purpose?) all mixes by The Development Corporation. In fact their two mixes can only be found on the promo and commercial vinyl
maxi single. The promo CD also leaves out their 2 mixes. This is really perplexing because by the time "Dreams" was issued in America, the single had already been a No. 1 hit
(for
weeks) in the U.K., and furthermore, the single destroyed dancefloors across the U.K. (it also hit No. 1 on the U.K. Club chart) and Europe. The Developed Arrested Mix was the mix
that received most, if not all, of the club play. It also hit No. 1 on Billboard's Club Play chart.

Once airplay of the house mix took over, Go! Discs quickly re-issued the cassette single... as a "double" cassette single. Both cassettes came housed in a "fat" cassette cardboard
sleeve. The first cassette was just like the original pressing, while the second cassette included The Developed Arrested Mix on the A-side and The Red Underground Mix on the B-
side. Printed on the front cover: Includes free bonus cassette featuring #1 house mixes.

It wasn't until 1996 that The Developed Arrested Mix was released in the U.S. on CD format, as the B-side to "Give Me A Little More Time".

I have two different edits that were released on two different U.K. compilations.   Both are labeled as The Developed Arrested Mix. One is 4:40 long, which I dubbed The Developed
Arrested Mixshow. The other one is 3:37 long, which I dubbed The Developed Arrested Radio Mix. I have both if anyone wants them. I consider them official mixes as they were
released on official compilations. As far as I know, there was no promo CD from Go! Discs with The Developed Arrested Edit. Maybe someone who worked radio in 1993 knows for sure.

http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-All-Time-Greatest-Hits-Of -Dance-2/release/734369

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Its-The-Ultimate-Dance-Album/ release/408682

Mark, Phats & Small issued a white label of "Respect The Cock", which sampled Tom's line. But when it came to release it commercially, Tom Cruise would not permission. Someone by
the name of Jordan Newhouse eventually re-recorded Tom's lines for the commercial release.

http://www.discogs.com/A-Small-Phat-One-Respect-The-Cock/rel ease/114160

Edited by Loveland]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:41:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37494&title=dreams-gabrielle#37494 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37493&title=dreams-gabrielle#37493 Author: Smokin' TomGary
Subject: 6668
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 2:25pm

Promo CDP-1011 with 3 tracks:
7" Version 3:41 listed
Dignity Mix 5:40 listed
The Red Underground Mix 6:15 listed

Stock 857 299-2 with 5 tracks:
7" Version 3:44 listed
Breakdown Mix 3:53 listed
Acoustic Version 3:51 listed
Dignity Mix Edit 3:44 listed
Easy Mix Edit 3:46 listed]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 14:25:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37493&title=dreams-gabrielle#37493 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37492&title=dreams-gabrielle#37492 Author: MMathews
Subject: 6668
Posted: 25 April 2013 at 1:24pm

Whoa, "Magnolia" one of my favorite films of all time, but
anyone who hasn't seen will not understand the previous
post.

Regarding "Dreams" ... did any other market play the
faster, uptempo club mix?
Z-100 played what was apparently a radio edit of the 12"
single.
Was wondering if that edit was on a promo.
MM ]]> Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:24:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=37492&title=dreams-gabrielle#37492 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=33000&title=dreams-gabrielle#33000 Author: eric_a
Subject: 6668
Posted: 24 February 2012 at 4:40pm

Isn't "Dreams" also on the Magnolia soundtrack?]]> Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:40:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6668&PID=33000&title=dreams-gabrielle#33000