https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 22 Apr 2026 16:58:09 +0000 Mon, 07 May 2012 10:19:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6825 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34092&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34092 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6825
Posted: 07 May 2012 at 10:19am

It must have existed on tape somewhere when it was originally recorded, right? By 1959, I doubt most artists were recording directly to a lathe. I don't hear any pops and clicks or turntable rumble on this recording, and I also don't hear anything that sounds like groove distortion. If the Ripete CD is a disc dub, they've certainly fooled me, and I'm usually very good at spotting those things.]]> Mon, 07 May 2012 10:19:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34092&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34092 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34091&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34091 Author: Gary Mack
Subject: 6825
Posted: 07 May 2012 at 9:35am

aaronk wrote: A handful of us exchanged some private messages about the Ripete CD, and Brian discovered some interesting information. The tracks on this disc were licensed from Red Dog Express, which was owned by Marshall Sehorn. It turns out that Sehorn used to be the promotion man for the Fury record label. I can confirm that "Kansas City" is from a tape source on the Ripete CD and sounds far better than any other CDs I've heard it on.

It has to be a tape OF a disc dub, for had a tape existed when the single came out in 1959, the Fury 45 would have used it. But the same pops and clicks on the original single appear on every subsequent release, though some have been cleaned up better than othrs.

GM]]> Mon, 07 May 2012 09:35:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34091&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34091 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34088&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34088 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6825
Posted: 06 May 2012 at 10:49pm

Sehorn was even more than the promotion man for Fury. He actually discovered Wilbert Harrison and apparently produced the recording session for "Kansas City":

Marshall Estus Sehorn         SEHORN Marshall Estus Sehorn, a native of Concord, NC and resident of metropolitan New Orleans, LA since 1965, passed away December 5, 2006 from complications of a lifelong respiratory condition. He was 72. Sehorn graduated from Winecoff High School, Class of 1953. While attending NC State University, he began playing in and booking bands. In 1958, he began working for New York's Fire and Fury labels as a promotion man and talent scout throughout the South. On one of his first trips back home, he discovered Wilbert Harrison singing "Kansas City" at a local club in Charlotte. Sehorn recorded Harrison in New York at the tail end of a gospel session for the Fury label.

]]> Sun, 06 May 2012 22:49:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34088&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34088 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34084&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34084 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6825
Posted: 06 May 2012 at 8:28pm

A handful of us exchanged some private messages about the Ripete CD, and Brian discovered some interesting information. The tracks on this disc were licensed from Red Dog Express, which was owned by Marshall Sehorn. It turns out that Sehorn used to be the promotion man for the Fury record label. I can confirm that "Kansas City" is from a tape source on the Ripete CD and sounds far better than any other CDs I've heard it on.

Edited by aaronk]]> Sun, 06 May 2012 20:28:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34084&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34084 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34080&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34080 Author: KentT
Subject: 6825
Posted: 06 May 2012 at 7:52pm

My Monarch pressed Oldies 45 reissue and my Fury 45 are from the same stampers. And the Oldies 45 copy is the better sounding, it has quieter surfaces. Less noisy. Best CD I have heard has been the Capricorn "The Fire and Fury Records Story" mastered by Lee Herschberg. Suspect that the Little Walter DeVenne transfers were used. ]]> Sun, 06 May 2012 19:52:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=34080&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#34080 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33985&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33985 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6825
Posted: 27 April 2012 at 9:39pm

Does anyone own the Ripete CD "Coolin' Out/24 Carolina Classics Vol. 2"? How does Kansas City sound on that?]]> Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:39:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33985&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33985 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33975&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33975 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 6825
Posted: 26 April 2012 at 5:58am

I do have a promotional copy of the Oldies 45 issue of the song in my storage locker (which I bought because I had never seen a promotional 45 on Oldies 45) and I will see if I can locate it in my storage locker the next time I am there this weekend.]]> Thu, 26 Apr 2012 05:58:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33975&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33975 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33964&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33964 Author: KentT
Subject: 6825
Posted: 25 April 2012 at 7:36am

To my ear, the original Fury 45 sounds better than the CD issues from declicked disc dubs. It has better low end and sounds less muddied. Judging from some other Fire and Fury 45 singles, if there is a Vee-Jay Oldies 45 reissue, that would use original West Coast stampers and have the original sound and quieter surfaces. As does my Oldies 45 reissue of "Fannie Mae" by Buster Brown. P.S. The Oldies 45 discography lists this tune. I will see if I can find a copy and compare deadwax with my beat Fury 45.

Edited by KentT]]> Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:36:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33964&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33964 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33961&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33961 Author: NightAire
Subject: 6825
Posted: 24 April 2012 at 8:01am

Andrew, you're right about 'Raging Harlem Hit Parade' being a pretty clean copy... much less of a mess than other copies I've heard... wish we had this when I was on the air!

Regarding length of the 45: could it be an early fade?

The "Raging Harlem..." version sounds like it's gone at 2:26, even though the track runs to 2:31. (With plenty of gain applied, I can hear the surface noise right at the end.)]]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:01:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33961&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33961 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33938&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33938 Author: edtop40
Subject: 6825
Posted: 23 April 2012 at 4:49pm

my fury 45 only runs 2:24....are there two different
versions?]]> Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:49:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6825&PID=33938&title=wilbert-harrison-kansas-city#33938