https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 09 May 2026 15:50:17 +0000 Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:32:24 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=6985 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38822&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38822 Author: jimct
Subject: 6985
Posted: 13 August 2013 at 2:32pm

Paul, I don't think I've ever looked more forward to an upcoming RR release
than I have this one! Thanks for giving this effort the "full RR treatment", as
you put it, even though it's *tons* more work for you.

I just thought of one thing, however. I've long ago made special notations in
my Pop Annual books, for all of the BB Top 40 hits that are *not* in Pat's db,
and for the non-BB Top 40-peaking hits that *are* in the db. I'm expecting
that this new RR book will result in both some additions and deletions to
Pat's db, since Pat has always utilized Cashbox as his "go to" publication, and
with as many corrections as you have been identifying along the way...]]> Tue, 13 Aug 2013 14:32:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38822&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38822 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38820&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38820 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6985
Posted: 13 August 2013 at 10:23am

Yes, we're giving this project the full "Record Research" treatment of doing the week-by-week research from scratch. It's been VERY time consuming, but it's the only way to do it right.

So far, we've found hundreds of mistakes in the previously published books...including this one I just found this morning: "If U Were Mine" by U-Krew actually peaked at #24 with 17 weeks charted, not #56 with 8 weeks charted as previously published.]]> Tue, 13 Aug 2013 10:23:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38820&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38820 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38818&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38818 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6985
Posted: 13 August 2013 at 9:43am

TomDiehl1 wrote: Hopefully you guys have Randy Price helping out with that book....

I'm sure they're starting from scratch from the original issues, so I doubt they'd need any help.

Edited by Brian W.]]> Tue, 13 Aug 2013 09:43:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38818&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38818 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38811&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38811 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 6985
Posted: 12 August 2013 at 3:50pm

Paul Haney wrote: As our research of the Cash Box charts continues, we are finding more and more mistakes in the previously published books. This research is a huge undertaking, but we still hope to have a finished book out sometime later this year. Stay tuned...

Hopefully you guys have Randy Price helping out with that book....]]> Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:50:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38811&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38811 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38809&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38809 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6985
Posted: 12 August 2013 at 1:21pm

I just finished up the week-by-week research on "Everything" by Jody Watley. That WAS a weird chart run!]]> Mon, 12 Aug 2013 13:21:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=38809&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#38809 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36988&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36988 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 6985
Posted: 08 March 2013 at 6:03am

As our research of the Cash Box charts continues, we are finding more and more mistakes in the previously published books. This research is a huge undertaking, but we still hope to have a finished book out sometime later this year. Stay tuned...]]> Fri, 08 Mar 2013 06:03:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36988&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36988 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36983&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36983 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6985
Posted: 07 March 2013 at 8:56pm

torcan wrote: I don't think the problem was just confined to Cashbox. I've heard allegations that Billboard's long-time chart director Bill Wardlow took bribes of up to $5000 if you wanted a bullet, and that the president of Casablanca records could dictate where some of his company's albums appeared on the chart.

Yep. From an Orlando Sentinal article about Larry Harris's book about his tenure at Casablanca Records:

"Harris himself was engaging in the bald-faced bribery of Bill Wardlow, the guardian of the all-important Billboard charts, to inflate Casablanca’s rankings – a task made considerably easier by Wardlow’s utter corruption and yearning to be near the spotlight of the disco acts like Donna Summer and the Village People who, along with KISS, formed the foundation of the label’s undeniable, if self-inflated, success."

http://www2.orlandoweekly.com/news/story.asp?id=13512]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:56:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36983&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36983 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36981&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36981 Author: torcan
Subject: 6985
Posted: 07 March 2013 at 3:43pm

aaronk wrote: Dixon was upset that Hughes was attempting to stop a scheme that called for record promoters and artists to pay Dixon for positioning on the Cash Box chart. During the trial that ended Thursday (Sept. 25), witnesses testified that D'Antonio had collected bribes as high as $2,000 to ensure that a single charted.

I don't think the problem was just confined to Cashbox. I've heard allegations that Billboard's long-time chart director Bill Wardlow took bribes of up to $5000 if you wanted a bullet, and that the president of Casablanca records could dictate where some of his company's albums appeared on the chart. If you look at the Hot 100 and top LP charts from the later '70s into the earlier '80s, there are some awfully weird things that went on. Part of it was due to the stupid chart rules where a record had to "lose its star" before it could fall. This lead to many log-jams on all the charts and you really wonder of the accuracy.

I can't wait for that Cashbox book!]]> Thu, 07 Mar 2013 15:43:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36981&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36981 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36373&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36373 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 6985
Posted: 08 January 2013 at 10:51pm

EdisonLite wrote: You gotta wonder how much someone at Cashbox received for putting a non top 100 hit all the way up at #1!

Well, I guess we have some idea now:

aaronk wrote: Dixon was upset that Hughes was attempting to stop a scheme that called for record promoters and artists to pay Dixon for positioning on the Cash Box chart. During the trial that ended Thursday (Sept. 25), witnesses testified that D'Antonio had collected bribes as high as $2,000 to ensure that a single charted.

Edited by Brian W.]]> Tue, 08 Jan 2013 22:51:32 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36373&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36373 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6985&PID=36360&title=cashbox-vs-bb-top-40-hits#36360 Author: aaronk
Subject: 6985
Posted: 08 January 2013 at 2:48pm

From a CMT article:

A Las Vegas resident has been convicted in the 1989 slaying of a music researcher for the now-defunct Cash Box magazine. Richard D'Antonio, 56, was sentenced to life in prison after a jury found him guilty of first-degree murder in the shooting death of 23-year-old Kevin Hughes. A jury also found D’Antonio guilty of assault with intent to commit second-degree murder for shooting Hughes’ friend, singer Sammy Sadler, while they were outside a recording studio on Nashville’s Music Row. D'Antonio had worked with Chuck Dixon, a record promoter and former Cash Box employee who died in 2001. According to testimony, Dixon was upset that Hughes was attempting to stop a scheme that called for record promoters and artists to pay Dixon for positioning on the Cash Box chart. During the trial that ended Thursday (Sept. 25), witnesses testified that D'Antonio had collected bribes as high as $2,000 to ensure that a single charted. Trade publications now use electronic monitoring of radio station airplay to compile singles charts. 09/26/03

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