https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 13 Apr 2026 04:10:13 +0000 Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:09:58 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7017 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=60248&title=dion-runaround-sue#60248 Author: KentT
Subject: 7017
Posted: 19 February 2022 at 7:09pm

Ace's Stereo is excellent on their LP and CD. And no
Columbia echo chamber on this recording(which was at the
30th Street studio in New York City) and this will never
sound correct. Which is how Laurie got their reverb.

Edited by KentT]]> Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:09:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=60248&title=dion-runaround-sue#60248 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=60173&title=dion-runaround-sue#60173 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 7017
Posted: 05 February 2022 at 9:14pm

aaronk wrote: Ok, I'm glad I'm not crazy, Mark! I noticed that Pat has added the "45 and mono LP version" comment next to the appropriate CDs. How do you think the stereo mix ought to be labeled? It is my understanding that there were no stereo LP versions released in 1961. That would technically make all those CDs "remixed" or "neither" versions, right?

Aaron,

You can hear the clear difference between the Mono and the Stereo. This would be a perfect one for Eric Records to do in DES Stereo! I labeled it Stereo LP Remix since you are right no LP versions were released in 1961, but it was on an LP and it was a "remixed" version.

Good ear!]]> Sat, 05 Feb 2022 21:14:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=60173&title=dion-runaround-sue#60173 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35275&title=dion-runaround-sue#35275 Author: davidclark
Subject: 7017
Posted: 09 September 2012 at 10:36pm

yes, Mark, according to the BSN website's extensive LP labels discography
section, Runaround Sue was in true stereo on the 1967 LP "Laurie Golden
Goodies". You have a great memory!]]> Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:36:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35275&title=dion-runaround-sue#35275 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35087&title=dion-runaround-sue#35087 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 7017
Posted: 24 August 2012 at 5:54pm

I'm of the opinion that if the database is going to include "45 and mono LP version" comments for "Runaround Sue", then there really should a comment for the stereo mix since it technically can't be considered the "hit" version due to the reverb/echo differences. I would suggest maybe either adding a general comment underneath the song title stating something like: "The stereo version of this song is slightly remixed", or individually inserting a "slightly remixed" comment next to each stereo CD entry.

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:54:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35087&title=dion-runaround-sue#35087 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35082&title=dion-runaround-sue#35082 Author: MMathews
Subject: 7017
Posted: 23 August 2012 at 10:42pm

Well, since the stereo version did debut on an LP, i'd
think "LP version" should still suffice. It just happens
that the LP in question was later.
I can't be sure, but i think it was a V/A Lp from 1968
called something "Laurie Golden Goodies" - i used to own
it. I'm sure can expert can correct me on that.
Otherwise, since the stereo mix is so prevalent, why not
just put "45 version" next to a cd with it, and leave the
others with no label. Does it really need one?
Just a thought. ]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:42:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35082&title=dion-runaround-sue#35082 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35062&title=dion-runaround-sue#35062 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7017
Posted: 23 August 2012 at 6:54am

Ok, I'm glad I'm not crazy, Mark!

I noticed that Pat has added the "45 and mono LP version" comment
next to the appropriate CDs. How do you think the stereo mix ought to
be labeled? It is my understanding that there were no stereo LP
versions released in 1961. That would technically make all those CDs
"remixed" or "neither" versions, right?]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2012 06:54:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35062&title=dion-runaround-sue#35062 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35059&title=dion-runaround-sue#35059 Author: MMathews
Subject: 7017
Posted: 23 August 2012 at 1:37am

Ok
Aaron sent me a nice clear dub of his 45, and i DO hear
the slap echo (aka tape-delay) on Dion's voice as well,
it occurs during the body of the song, just not in the
intro.

Interestingly, you'd think you could sort of "create" a
stereo 45 mix by adding some echo to the stereo mix,
however i don't hear it on the Del-satins, only on Dion
and the clapping. They come thru loud and clear without
the echo.

]]> Thu, 23 Aug 2012 01:37:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35059&title=dion-runaround-sue#35059 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35057&title=dion-runaround-sue#35057 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7017
Posted: 22 August 2012 at 11:01pm

What I'm hearing (at least on my mono copy) is a very subtle slapback after the song kicks in. What I'm calling "slapback" is basically the entire vocal delayed by less than a half second and at a lower volume. I sent you my mono copy to hear the same copy I'm listening to.

It's most noticeable on the "s" consonent (such as on the line at 0:54 "listen people what I'm telling you," the "s" in listen) and when the music stops during the line "keep away from runaround Sue." It's not just reverb; it's a vocal delay at a lower volume, which is what I'm calling slapback.

Edited by aaronk]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:01:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35057&title=dion-runaround-sue#35057 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35056&title=dion-runaround-sue#35056 Author: MMathews
Subject: 7017
Posted: 22 August 2012 at 9:20pm

Aaron,

after i saw this i was curious because i hadn't heard the
mono version of this since the early 80's... (and never
looked back!)
So i went to youtube and i must have played 5 or 6
different dubs of the 45...i must say i DO hear what you
mean about the slap echo, but only on the hand-claps, and
maaaybe the backing vocals (del-satins, i believe) but i
do not hear echo on Dion. I hear standard reverb.
Not disagreeing about a LP/45 version notation but i
never recalled hearing slap echo on Dion himself.
anyone else?
MM ]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:20:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35056&title=dion-runaround-sue#35056 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35054&title=dion-runaround-sue#35054 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7017
Posted: 22 August 2012 at 7:26pm

Anything is possible, but the mono and stereo mixes I have are the
same vocal take. ]]> Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:26:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7017&PID=35054&title=dion-runaround-sue#35054