https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 12:39:45 +0000 Sat, 21 Sep 2019 11:17:39 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=724 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52765&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52765 Author: aaronk
Subject: 724
Posted: 21 September 2019 at 11:17am

Pat, do you think the database needs to be updated to make it clearer?

The CDs currently listed as "neither" should stay that way. This is truly a
different mix that doesn't have the overdubs on the intro. "Neither" is a
suitable description.

As for the remaining CDs, do you think they should be labeled "LP version"?
This is a tough call, similar to a case like "Black Velvet" where the opening of
the 45 is slightly truncated, and of course there's a length/fade difference with
the LP running longer.]]> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 11:17:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52765&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52765 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52762&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52762 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 724
Posted: 21 September 2019 at 7:34am

Aaron to address some of your questions, my copy of the commercial 45 of "I Gotcha" has 5 of the "uh huh's" on the intro. The "neither" versions also include 5 "uh huh's" on the intro. ]]> Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:34:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52762&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52762 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52731&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52731 Author: aaronk
Subject: 724
Posted: 19 September 2019 at 9:48am

As a side note, I found what appears to be a dub of the original vinyl LP on YouTube, and the stereo edit contained on it matches what's on CD. So, they truly must've edited the intro twice back in 1972: once for the mono 45 and once for the stereo LP.

Pat, does your 2:23 length copy also have an edited intro, or is it the same as mine with five "uh-huhs"?

Edited by aaronk]]> Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:48:43 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52731&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52731 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52730&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52730 Author: aaronk
Subject: 724
Posted: 19 September 2019 at 9:37am

Revisiting this one, because there are two distinctly different 45 versions, and one is not an early fade of the other. Above, Ron says his 45 dub matches what's on CD, but that's not the case with my stock 45. As Mark mentioned earlier in the thread, the difference is in the intro.

My stock copy (Dial D-1010) has a printed time of 2:18 and actual time of 2:23 (deadwax: 49156-3).

- The first "I gotcha" is truncated compared to what's on CD, as Ed states in an earlier post.
- The instruments come in at 0:21 on this version, as it has five "uh-huhs."
- Mix sounds like a fold-down of the stereo version.
- On the first "uh-huh" there is a quick "ping" noise on the stereo CD just before the kick drum, but this is actually the beginning of one of the "uh-huhs" have been edited out. This "ping" sound is absent from the 45, because they put the edit point in a better spot.

My promo copy has a printed time of 2:18 and actual time of 2:17. (deadwax: 46156-6)

- The first "I gotcha" is also truncated.
- The instruments come in at 0:13 on this version, and it has three "uh-huhs." Again, the edit point is fractions of a second different from the stereo version. If I line them up in the multi-tracker, they stay perfectly in sync until the edit points, and then they become just a tad out of sync.
- Mix also sounds like a fold-down, so I don't think a dedicated mix was done.

Does anyone have the "neither" version on CD, and if so, does it have five "uh-huhs" on the intro vs. three on the shorter version?

Edited by aaronk]]> Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:37:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=52730&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#52730 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49124&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49124 Author: KentT
Subject: 724
Posted: 26 March 2018 at 6:23am

Grant wrote: Jeff H. wrote: Grant wrote: That whole album must have been mixed with bright monitors set at high volume levels. More than likely. But the other thing to keep in mind was that the released version of "I Gotcha" only had a scratch vocal performed by Joe on it. His producer Buddy Killen liked so much as it was that he went ahead and issued it just like that. Tex was supposedly really pissed about it, until it became a huge hit. Best James Brown imitation I ever heard, too!

Yes, this is a scratch vocal aka First Take Luck. Buddy
Killen liked it, issued it as it was. I can't imagine
this one getting a better performance. Which means for
me, the Funky takes precedent over the Sonics and the
Technique.
]]> Mon, 26 Mar 2018 06:23:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49124&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49124 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49106&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49106 Author: KentT
Subject: 724
Posted: 22 March 2018 at 6:33pm

The Dial 45 does not sound murky, it sounds great! ]]> Thu, 22 Mar 2018 18:33:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49106&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49106 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49101&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49101 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 724
Posted: 20 March 2018 at 9:19pm

Listening now and I just remembered what happened, the record apparently jumped and thus lengthened the recording... :rolleyes: again, take care. (there is a very slighter longer fade, TOO)

Edited by Steve Carras]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:19:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49101&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49101 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49100&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49100 Author: Steve Carras
Subject: 724
Posted: 20 March 2018 at 8:43pm

I DO have an mp3 with a longer ending..(2:41) - actual recording fade roughly at 2:35..no "Ahhhh" before "I Gotcha!" at the beginning..take care]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:43:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49100&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49100 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49099&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49099 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 724
Posted: 20 March 2018 at 8:42pm

LP and long 45 version (2:23-ish to 2:27-ish)

The 45 is mono. The scratchy needledrop I have sounds like a fold-down of the stereo LP version, to my ears. The recording is delightfully rough; it's not supposed to be a Steely Dan record.

The oldest version I have on CD is on Rhino's Best Of (1988), where it runs 2:27 and sounds as good as it'll get. The same analog transfer is used on literally every other CD I own with the song, including:

• Rhino's Billboard Top R&B Hits 1972 (1990) - digitally identical
• Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vol. 8 (1991) - digitally identical
• Rhino's Didn't It Blow Your Mind Vols. 6-10 Sampler (PRO2 90070, 1991) - digitally identical
• Razor & Tie's 2-CD Sweet '70s Soul (1991)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 22 Seventies Top Forty (1992) - absolute polarity inverted (insignificant)
• Rhino's cheapie Seventies Smash Hits Vol. 6 (1993) - digitally identical
• JCI's Only Soul 1970-1974 (1996) - absolute polarity inverted (insignificant)
• Madacy's Rock On 1972 (1996) - digitally exactly 3.7 dB louder than Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 22 Seventies Top Forty
• Time-Life's Solid Gold Soul Vol. 7 1972 (1996) - absolute polarity inverted (insignificant)
• Disky UK's Beat Goes On Vol. 3 (1997) - mastered too loud and clips a bit
• Rhino's Millennium New Funk Party (2001) - differently EQ'd digital clone

One outlier - PolyGram's Pure Funk Vol. 2 (1999) tracks from the previous selection, and doesn't have a clean intro. Avoid.

Short 45 version

It's almost an early fade of the LP version, but it also clips the opening yelp to start with the word "I".

To recreate the short 45 version from the LP version on Rhino's Best Of (1988), add a fade from 2:04 to 2:16, then delete the first 0.7 seconds.

My recommendation

This one's easy.

Go for Rhino's Best Of (1988), or any of the Rhino digitally identical clones.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2018 20:42:38 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49099&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49099 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49097&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49097 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 724
Posted: 20 March 2018 at 4:46pm

On Pure Funk Vol. 2 (1999), the very beginning of "I Gotcha" has a sound effect overlaid over the vocals. I think it tracks from the previous selection.]]> Tue, 20 Mar 2018 16:46:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=724&PID=49097&title=i-gotcha-by-joe-tex#49097