https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Fri, 08 May 2026 07:45:22 +0000 Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:57:47 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7261 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43430&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43430 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7261
Posted: 09 April 2015 at 3:57pm

It's hard to pinpoint the exact point when the song begins fading, but it's probably somewhere in between 3:36 and 3:45---like around 3:40. In any case, my version was creating using Jim's promo 45 dub as a guide, and I always try to re-create the fades exactly as they are on the vinyl.]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:57:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43430&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43430 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43427&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43427 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 7261
Posted: 09 April 2015 at 3:25pm

Thanks for the update! :)

I'll re-recreate the fade. :)]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2015 15:25:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43427&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43427 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43426&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43426 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 7261
Posted: 09 April 2015 at 2:28pm

Full disclosure: I recreated Aaron's recreation of the promo 45 version.

I used a sinusoidal fade, which matched the shape of Aaron's fade, as well as the start/end points for the fade.

I wholeheartedly trust Aaron's work, so I'd bet my dollar on the 32-beat fade from 3:36 to 3:54, rather than the 16-beat fade from 3:45 to 3:54.]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:28:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43426&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43426 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43425&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43425 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 7261
Posted: 09 April 2015 at 1:39pm

Ok, Ron, I'm confused. Kerry, back in 2013, said to
recreate the fade for the promo side, was to start the
fade at 3:45. Your instructions say start the fade at
3:36.

Which is correct?]]> Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:39:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43425&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43425 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43421&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43421 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 7261
Posted: 08 April 2015 at 8:44pm

The first CD to include "Shadow Dancing" was Polydor's Andy Gibb greatest hits album from 1991. It runs 4:29 here, and sounds excellent - excellent dynamic range, very good EQ, no traces of noise reduction, and seemingly very low-generation source tapes. It's no wonder that a bunch of others use the same analog transfer:

• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 38 Celebration (1994; mastered too loud and clips a bit)
• Razor & Tie's 2-CD Super '70s (1995; shortens the tail of the fade)
• Time-Life's AM Gold Vol. 25 1978 (1997; digitally exactly 1 dB quieter)
• Time-Life's Sounds Of The Seventies Vol. 46 '70s Dance Party 1978-1979 (1997; differently-EQ'd digital clone)

I have just one compilation that isn't based on Andy Gibb. Sessions/Warner Special Products' 2-CD Ultimate Party Album (1992) runs three seconds longer, at 4:32, and has a differently shaped fade than Andy Gibb. Based on the timing, I'd guess that Ultimate probably uses the same analog transfer as Polydor's Shadow Dancing disc (just a guess). Overall, I prefer the sound on Andy Gibb.

The promo 45 is an early fade of the LP/commercial 45 version. Add a 32-beat fade, downbeat to downbeat on the word "Do", from 3:36.1 to 3:54.6 of the LP/commercial 45 version (using the timings from Andy Gibb).

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 08 Apr 2015 20:44:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=43421&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#43421 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36711&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36711 Author: Kerry Jackson
Subject: 7261
Posted: 13 February 2013 at 2:51pm

There probably isn't another dj 45 of "Shadow Dancing". Based on your matrix number info, my dj 45 is identical to yours except for the labels. The label for the long stereo version is on both sides of my 45:
       

I'd guess this was a pressing plant mistake...]]> Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:51:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36711&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36711 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36707&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36707 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 7261
Posted: 13 February 2013 at 10:13am

Are there two different dj 45's issued for "Shadow Dancing"? My copy is RSO 893 with matrix number RS-893-AM-CT1 which is the mono side with a stated time of (3:35) but actual running time of (3:55) and RS-893-AS-CT2 which is the stereo side with a stated running time of (4:12) but actual running time of (4:32).]]> Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:13:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36707&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36707 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36706&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36706 Author: Kerry Jackson
Subject: 7261
Posted: 13 February 2013 at 9:39am

Yes, the hotter sound on the short side is level, not equalization or remix.]]> Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:39:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36706&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36706 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36695&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36695 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7261
Posted: 12 February 2013 at 10:59pm

No mix differences on this one; it's just an early fade the LP length. I think the "hotter" sound that Kerry is referring to could be that the short side is pressed louder than the long side.]]> Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:59:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36695&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36695 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36691&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36691 Author: Kerry Jackson
Subject: 7261
Posted: 12 February 2013 at 6:53pm

That's true for the short version compared to the long version on the DJ 45. I don't have the album or cd versions to compare those.]]> Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:53:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7261&PID=36691&title=andy-gibb-shadow-dancing#36691