https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 23 Apr 2026 18:16:37 +0000 Fri, 22 Mar 2024 23:45:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=74 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=64594&title=madonnalucky-star#64594 Author: mjb50
Subject: 74
Posted: 22 March 2024 at 11:45pm

Ron S wrote: Is this the correct 45 version of the song? [link to Feb. 2018 upload by YouTube user Single Versions, Edits, & Promos]

aaronk wrote: You're right that it's a straight edit of the LP version, but I'm not sure if the YouTube video is 100% accurate. It looks to be someone's homemade edit based on the original 45. It may be correct, but it's hard to say what the source is.

Aaron is right. I have confirmed that this particular YouTube clip is indeed someone's re-creation. They got the edit point at 3:08 just slightly off. I didn't check the other points.

smallworld wrote: This video from a vinyl source has the abrupt edit circa 3:08 (about 3:17 in the video, there's 10 seconds of silence at the outset). The last audible lyric is "alright", as in "starlight, starbright you make everything alright". Is this the correct fade? [link to Aug. 2016 upload by YouTube user Cletus Hunnicutt]

That clip is a legit vinyl transfer. The fade is right but if you listen carefully (really crank it up), it actually continues slightly further. "Whatcha do to me baby" is audible, the last word almost totally buried in the noise. Total duration is about 3:49.

elcolleccionista wrote: Here's one of the YouTube sources for the original edit. [link to Jan. 2011 upload by YouTube user MadonnaGreatestMusik]

That clip is also an authentic vinyl transfer, but someone cut off the fade early.

Kiefer2 wrote: The 7" version is now available on streaming and download. People say it is accurate, but there is some question about the fade being longer. It is remastered, but the consensus is it's not jarring.

Brian W. wrote: No, the fade is not longer, but it's a bit louder, which indicates to me that it could be a recreated fade.

In the 2023 digital release, the edit is accurate (true to the original 45). I don't think it's a reconstruction. But yes, the fade had to be redone, and its slope is not quite a perfect match for the 45. The duration of the fade is accurate, with the "whatcha do to me baby" being the last audible lyric. As for the mastering, if you set aside how brickwalled it is (DR 6), it does sound quite good. Well, it's anachronistic, but good. Since it was never released on CD, nobody in the general public ever heard it with
such fidelity before now.


Edited by mjb50]]> Fri, 22 Mar 2024 23:45:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=64594&title=madonnalucky-star#64594 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=63335&title=madonnalucky-star#63335 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 74
Posted: 29 July 2023 at 12:40pm

I'm the one that originally brought up the fade oddity,
on Madonna Infinity.

No, the fade is not longer, but it's a bit louder, which
indicates to me that it could be a recreated fade. The
fade is louder after a certain point... it decays more
slowly than the actual 45, but it stops at the same
point. There is also no tape hiss audible at the very end
of the song at all.

Whether this is indicative of a recreation, or whether
the edit was faded live on-the-fly during the first 45
mastering and all future pressings were made from the
backup cutting master, necessitating a digital recreation
if they were going to use the first-generation edit, I'm
not sure.

I have also suspected that of the digital 7" version of
"Holiday," since that had a longer fadeout than the 45
but the edit points seem to be correct.]]> Sat, 29 Jul 2023 12:40:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=63335&title=madonnalucky-star#63335 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=63332&title=madonnalucky-star#63332 Author: Kiefer2
Subject: 74
Posted: 29 July 2023 at 8:20am

The 7" version is now available on streaming and download.
People say it is accurate, but there is some question about
the fade being longer. It is remastered, but the concensus
is it's not jarring.]]> Sat, 29 Jul 2023 08:20:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=63332&title=madonnalucky-star#63332 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50664&title=madonnalucky-star#50664 Author: Ron S
Subject: 74
Posted: 28 November 2018 at 3:47pm

And the newer edited version has a longer fade than the 45 version.]]> Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:47:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50664&title=madonnalucky-star#50664 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50663&title=madonnalucky-star#50663 Author: Ron S
Subject: 74
Posted: 28 November 2018 at 3:32pm

elcoleccionista wrote: I have discussed this with Aaron and he rightly pointed out that the original 45 has a pretty abrupt edit point at about 3:08 (after the background vocals...everyting al-riiight). The YouTube video (taken from the "Celebration" compilation is a newly created edit which does have a smoother edit point since those background vocals line make the transition past the edit point, unlike the original 45. The recreated edit can be argued is a better edit but it is not the originally released 45 version. Here's one of the YouTube sources for the original edit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcRL5ZR3Bg

I compared the two and you are right. The newer Celebration version is
better edited at the 3:08 mark but it isn't the true 45 version which has a
more abrupt ending in the word alright. ]]> Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:32:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50663&title=madonnalucky-star#50663 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50662&title=madonnalucky-star#50662 Author: Ron S
Subject: 74
Posted: 28 November 2018 at 3:19pm

elcoleccionista wrote: I have discussed this with Aaron and he rightly pointed out that the original 45 has a pretty abrupt edit point at about 3:08 (after the background vocals...everyting al-riiight). The YouTube video (taken from the "Celebration" compilation is a newly created edit which does have a smoother edit point since those background vocals line make the transition past the edit point, unlike the original 45. The recreated edit can be argued is a better edit but it is not the originally released 45 version. Here's one of the YouTube sources for the original edit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcRL5ZR3Bg

On the version I created....the alright doesn't appear until 3:16....not sure if
this is the celebration version or not.

Nevermind.....forgot that my version has 8 seconds of silence that I never
edited out so it matches the video version you provide....seems like the
same....

Edited by Ron S]]> Wed, 28 Nov 2018 15:19:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50662&title=madonnalucky-star#50662 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50660&title=madonnalucky-star#50660 Author: elcoleccionista
Subject: 74
Posted: 28 November 2018 at 9:50am

I have discussed this with Aaron and he rightly pointed out that the
original 45 has a pretty abrupt edit point at about 3:08 (after the
background vocals...everyting al-riiight). The YouTube video (taken
from the "Celebration" compilation is a newly created edit which
does have a smoother edit point since those background vocals line
make the transition past the edit point, unlike the original 45. The
recreated edit can be argued is a better edit but it is not the
originally released 45 version. Here's one of the YouTube sources
for the original edit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcRL5ZR3Bg]]> Wed, 28 Nov 2018 09:50:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50660&title=madonnalucky-star#50660 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50659&title=madonnalucky-star#50659 Author: NightAire
Subject: 74
Posted: 27 November 2018 at 9:57pm

John, I'd love a copy too... just trying to get this right. :-)]]> Tue, 27 Nov 2018 21:57:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50659&title=madonnalucky-star#50659 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50658&title=madonnalucky-star#50658 Author: smallworld
Subject: 74
Posted: 27 November 2018 at 7:10pm

This video from a vinyl source has the abrupt edit circa 3:08 (about 3:17 in the video, there's 10 seconds of silence at the outset). The last audible lyric is "alright", as in "starlight, starbright you make everything alright". Is this the correct fade?

Madonna - Lucky Star - 45 rpm 1983

Edited by smallworld]]> Tue, 27 Nov 2018 19:10:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50658&title=madonnalucky-star#50658 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50657&title=madonnalucky-star#50657 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 74
Posted: 27 November 2018 at 6:36pm

I'll PM you Ron.]]> Tue, 27 Nov 2018 18:36:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=74&PID=50657&title=madonnalucky-star#50657