https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 16:43:56 +0000 Sun, 05 May 2019 19:23:04 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7553 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51795&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51795 Author: KentT
Subject: 7553
Posted: 05 May 2019 at 7:23pm

Yah Shure wrote: I bought a mid-to-late-'70s vintage Chattahoochee 628 vinyl pressing around 1980. It sports the tri-color label design, and aside from Stan Ross losing the "Supervised &" portion of his engineering credit, everything else is still there. The title and credit fonts are most definitely '70s vintage, and the B-side is "Blue Dress", with no writer credit listed (it's credited to Ruth Conte (Yardum, Chattahoochee's owner) on a copy shown on Discogs. The reason I bought it at the time was that it was a far-better quality pressing than the crackly-at-birth original vinyl copy I had (with "Huntington Flats" on the flip.) It is almost certainly a Wakefield pressing, characterized by the pronounced, LP-like raised outer edge. Phoenix-based Wakefield pressed other boutique California label 45s during the late-'70s, such as Laff and the later Hudson & Landry 45s on Dore, as well as an Oink label re-recording of that label's original version of Elmo & Patsy's "Grandma." Another oddball late-'70s vintage Wakefield pressing: Robert Preston's 7-inch, 33 1/3 "Chicken Fat", which used the same CF-1000 catalog number as the original 1962 Capitol Custom edition, but replaced the Capitol logo with that of the United States Jaycees, the organization which had been distributing the disc since '62. The title and artist fonts were about as close as anyone could come to matching those of the Keystone Printed Specialties originals, but the mastering of the record, itself, was a bit lacking in the upper frequencies, compared to the Capitol. (As one who was blessed/cursed to have been old enough when this was first issued, I have a real love/hate attitude toward this record. While radio got by with airing the edited 2:12 "disc jockey version" on the flip side, our class had to endure the entire 6:30 "school version" exercise routine daily. It was great fun, but it also got old pretty quickly. Naturally, the seemingly three-ounce tone arms on the school's institutional Califone record players would shred every other record in sight except *that* one.) When given well-mastered cuttings, Wakefield's 45s were consistently the most durable and quiet of the mid-'70s, in my experience. Most of the Minneapolis-based labels sent their locally-mastered Sound 80 Studio cuttings to Wakefield for pressing, and the quality never disappointed, particularly when it came to resistance to cue burn (as huge of a regional hit as it was around here in '75, I never encountered a cue burned on-air copy of Northern Lights' "Minnesota" on the original Wakefield-pressed Glacier label.) Yet, some of the California-mastered Wakefield pressings I have aren't in the same quietness league. The Chattahoochee name may have seemed an odd choice for a Southern California-based record label, but owner Ruth Yardum was an Atlanta native. If nothing else, its appearance on "Popsicle"'s 45 labels and station surveys introduced or reinforced the correct spelling for many an impressionable youth. On the other hand, knowing how often those same surveys mangled label spellings over the years... :)

Re: Chicken Fat. Heard this, the Hap Palmer annoyances
too often in my too many years in special ed. Didn't
like them then, I despised them. Chicken Fat I mind
much less. Your post reminds me of my youth. And my days
as a young DJ, and assistant engineer. My own 45 of
"Popsicles & Icicles" is a late Wakefield pressing. That
is a quiet, flat, centered pressing of superb quality,
well mastered from great tapes.

Edited by KentT]]> Sun, 05 May 2019 19:23:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51795&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51795 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51791&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51791 Author: Hykker
Subject: 7553
Posted: 04 May 2019 at 5:21am

My copy has a rather abrupt ending.
]]> Sat, 04 May 2019 05:21:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51791&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51791 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51787&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51787 Author: davidclark
Subject: 7553
Posted: 03 May 2019 at 10:47pm

Revisiting this song, with its appearance on "Hard To Find Jukebox Classics
1963-1964: 29 Amazing Stereo Hits", I must assume that the 45 ends abruptly
as Pat writes, rather than with that (rather nice) extended ending. The
question begs, did any of the 4 issued 45s feature this extended ending? If
not, when did it first appear?

Edited by davidclark]]> Fri, 03 May 2019 22:47:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=51787&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#51787 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38535&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38535 Author: KentT
Subject: 7553
Posted: 17 July 2013 at 3:55pm

Yes, those Wakefield pressings were superb quality and wore
like iron. Yah Shure, I own a 45 of this identical to yours
and it is a superb 45. ]]> Wed, 17 Jul 2013 15:55:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38535&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38535 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38489&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38489 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 7553
Posted: 15 July 2013 at 10:59am

Jim my copy of Popsicles Icicles has Huntington Flats on the flip side and ends very abruptly. My comment about some cd's running :02 longer than any previously released version is meant to draw attention to the ending which does not cut off abruptly but continues on briefly with some guitar notes. ]]> Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:59:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38489&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38489 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38484&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38484 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7553
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 8:38pm

I bought a mid-to-late-'70s vintage Chattahoochee 628 vinyl pressing around 1980. It sports the tri-color label design, and aside from Stan Ross losing the "Supervised &" portion of his engineering credit, everything else is still there. The title and credit fonts are most definitely '70s vintage, and the B-side is "Blue Dress", with no writer credit listed (it's credited to Ruth Conte (Yardum, Chattahoochee's owner) on a copy shown on Discogs.

The reason I bought it at the time was that it was a far-better quality pressing than the crackly-at-birth original vinyl copy I had (with "Huntington Flats" on the flip.) It is almost certainly a Wakefield pressing, characterized by the pronounced, LP-like raised outer edge. Phoenix-based Wakefield pressed other boutique California label 45s during the late-'70s, such as Laff and the later Hudson & Landry 45s on Dore, as well as an Oink label re-recording of that label's original version of Elmo & Patsy's "Grandma."

Another oddball late-'70s vintage Wakefield pressing: Robert Preston's 7-inch, 33 1/3 "Chicken Fat", which used the same CF-1000 catalog number as the original 1962 Capitol Custom edition, but replaced the Capitol logo with that of the United States Jaycees, the organization which had been distributing the disc since '62. The title and artist fonts were about as close as anyone could come to matching those of the Keystone Printed Specialties originals, but the mastering of the record, itself, was a bit lacking in the upper frequencies, compared to the Capitol. (As one who was blessed/cursed to have been old enough when this was first issued, I have a real love/hate attitude toward this record. While radio got by with airing the edited 2:12 "disc jockey version" on the flip side, our class had to endure the entire 6:30 "school version" exercise routine daily. It was great fun, but it also got old pretty quickly. Naturally, the seemingly three-ounce tone arms on the school's institutional Califone record players would shred every other record in sight except *that* one.)

When given well-mastered cuttings, Wakefield's 45s were consistently the most durable and quiet of the mid-'70s, in my experience. Most of the Minneapolis-based labels sent their locally-mastered Sound 80 Studio cuttings to Wakefield for pressing, and the quality never disappointed, particularly when it came to resistance to cue burn (as huge of a regional hit as it was around here in '75, I never encountered a cue burned on-air copy of Northern Lights' "Minnesota" on the original Wakefield-pressed Glacier label.) Yet, some of the California-mastered Wakefield pressings I have aren't in the same quietness league.

The Chattahoochee name may have seemed an odd choice for a Southern California-based record label, but owner Ruth Yardum was an Atlanta native. If nothing else, its appearance on "Popsicle"'s 45 labels and station surveys introduced or reinforced the correct spelling for many an impressionable youth.

On the other hand, knowing how often those same surveys mangled label spellings over the years... :) ]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:38:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38484&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38484 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38481&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38481 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 7553
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 6:41pm

GNP Crescendo existed as early as 1957 that i know of....i've never seen the 45 as a promo, wow....however you have a first pressing there....


The order of how the B sides got issued are:

Blue Dress, Bunny Stomp, Comedy And Tragedy, and Huntington Flats.

Edited by TomDiehl1]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:41:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38481&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38481 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38480&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38480 Author: Hykker
Subject: 7553
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 6:32pm

Was this song re-issued at some point? I ask because my
copy, which is a promo is marked "distributed by G.N.P.
Crescendo, which I didn't think existed in 1963. This
copy is styrene, and has "Blue Dress" on the B side.

]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:32:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38480&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38480 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38478&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38478 Author: jimct
Subject: 7553
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 4:23pm

Tom, mine is on vinyl, with Huntington Flats on the flip. Concerned that Ed
(who himself collects all original Top 40 hits) might not have had an original
45 copy for it, I e-mailed him Tuesday. First, about the fact that, yes,
Chattahoochee 628 copies kept getting pressed up for many years after (I
pointed out an "original version" notation on current 45s), the 4 different flip
sides used, label variations, yada yada. But I didn't post all that on here,
Tom. Because, besides making sure my own copy is original, and that my
timing info is accurate, that other stuff just wasn't of any direct relevance to
the CDs in Pat's db.

Edited by jimct]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:23:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38478&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38478 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38475&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38475 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 7553
Posted: 14 July 2013 at 4:06pm

This 45 seemed to be in print on the same record label and number for at least 15 years.

Jim, is your copy on vinyl or styrene? What is the B side? (it had 4 B sides, Huntington Flats was apparently the 4th B side issued and the one that remained in print the entire time, while the others were available only for a short while -- of those other 3, I've only seen Blue Dress and Comedy And Tragedy a few times but I've never come across one with Bunny Stomp on the B side). ]]> Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:06:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7553&PID=38475&title=murmaids-popsicles-and-icicles#38475