https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 04:26:40 +0000 Wed, 01 Jul 2020 15:29:41 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=7556 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=54892&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#54892 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7556
Posted: 01 July 2020 at 3:29pm

Fetta wrote: Yah Shure, I know it has been some time since this was discussed but do you remember which version was used during the "Where The Action Is" TV show?

Jeff, it was the hit single version with Bill Fulton on lead vocal, which made sense, given that Bill was lip syncing to his own vocal on the record.

Rob Grill didn't lay down the new vocal for the 1967 Let's Live For Today vinyl LP version until after the Fulton lineup had been canned. ]]> Wed, 01 Jul 2020 15:29:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=54892&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#54892 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=54886&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#54886 Author: Fetta
Subject: 7556
Posted: 01 July 2020 at 11:25am

Yah Shure wrote: The clip that ran on Dick Clark's Where The Action Is TV show featured Fulton lip- synching with the rest of the short-lived second 'Roots lineup.

Yah Shure, I know it has been some time since this was
discussed but do you remember which version was used
during the "Where The Action Is" TV show?

Thanks.
-Jeff]]> Wed, 01 Jul 2020 11:25:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=54886&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#54886 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38527&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38527 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7556
Posted: 17 July 2013 at 6:43am

TomDiehl1 wrote: If you like the Bangles version, check out the version by Adult Net.

Good one!

Completing the hat trick: the Triplets' version on Thicker Than Water. Hadn't played that one in so many years that I had to rifle through the CD racks to even remember their name. :)]]> Wed, 17 Jul 2013 06:43:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38527&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38527 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38525&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38525 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 7556
Posted: 17 July 2013 at 1:02am

jono wrote: Despite liking this version a lot, I have to say that the remake by the Bangles from the early 1980's (available on their Greatest Hits Cd) is at least as good as the Grass Roots version, in my opinion (of course).

If you like the Bangles version, check out the version by Adult Net.]]> Wed, 17 Jul 2013 01:02:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38525&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38525 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38524&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38524 Author: jono
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 10:14pm

jono wrote: I hope I'm remembering this correctly, but it seems to me that when I bought the Rhino Anthology cd new in 1991, the packaging mentioned something about containing the original version of the song (after blah blah so many years), which was a selling point for me. Jon O.

Quoting myself, what I must've remembered was a first time on cd for
this particular track, as I have the hit version of "Where Were You..." On
the Rhino Nuggets Volume Five: Pop Part III LP, which, of course, has
no cd counterpart. The LP was released in 1985. I do remember being
excited about the original version on cd, however.

Despite liking this version a lot, I have to say that the remake by the
Bangles from the early 1980's (available on their Greatest Hits Cd) is
at least as good as the Grass Roots version, in my opinion (of course).]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 22:14:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38524&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38524 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38523&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38523 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 9:49pm

I was the PD and morning guy at the local Transtar Oldies Channel affiliate in 1988 when I spotted a brand-new Ace/Big Beat import LP, P.F. Sloan/The Grass Roots - Songs Of Other Times at a nearby shop. It featured a nice mix of Sloan Dunhill solos, early Grass Roots recordings and a Dunhill single, "Karma", credited to A Study Of Divinations. The selling point for me was likewise the hit version of "Where Were You," especially since I'd never heard that version in stereo before. I couldn't wait to dub it and play it on the air.

The L.A.-based Oldies Channel aired the '67 Rob Grill re-do in regular rotation over the satellite, since that had been the only version available for years. I mailed a reel-to-reel dub of the new LP track to the network's PD in L.A., and they began airing the single version on the bird.

But I was never happy with the way the Big Beat stereo track folded to mono (my station being on AM) and ended up substituting the mono 45 on my own show.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:49:12 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38523&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38523 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38522&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38522 Author: aaronk
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 9:18pm

Pat lists CDs in his database in the order they were entered (I believe), which means that, for the most part, they are chronological by release date. The first CD listed for "Where Were You When I Needed You" that has the original hit version is, indeed, Rhino's Anthology.]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:18:02 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38522&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38522 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38521&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38521 Author: jono
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 8:10pm

My first (memorable) exposure to "Where Were You When I Needed
You" was the Rob Grill version on the popular 70's LP "Their 16
Greatest Hits", which I don't think has a cd counterpart.

I hope I'm remembering this correctly, but it seems to me that when I
bought the Rhino Anthology cd new in 1991, the packaging mentioned
something about containing the original version of the song (after blah
blah so many years), which was a selling point for me.

Jon O.]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 20:10:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38521&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38521 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38515&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38515 Author: TomDiehl1
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 4:00pm

jimct wrote: Tom, I think you may have mis-read some part of this thread. Because in it, neither Aaron nor Yah Shure had ever asked any questions about, or made any statements/claims, regarding the specific Grass Roots 45 track, "Let's Live For Today." They've been speaking about a different GR song entirely. The only two 45 tracks discussed here have been the topic of this thread, with Yah Shure also making a quick reference to "A Melody For You". And him comparing Fulton's vocals to Rob Grill's vocals on "Where Were You....", which was first issued on their "Let's Live For Today" album......

That's what I get for posting in the middle of the night with a splitting headache... of course I meant "Where Were You..."]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 16:00:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38515&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38515 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38505&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38505 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 7556
Posted: 16 July 2013 at 7:24am

Right, the references upthread about the Let's Live For Today vinyl LP were specifically about the version of "Where Were You" with Rob Grill's new vocal, which made its first appearance on that album, and not that album's title track.

Adding to the confusion regarding who sang lead on the "Where Were You" single is this statement from Andrew Sandoval's liner notes on the Varese Vintage Where Were You When I Needed You CD:

In May of 1966, Dunhill released a preview single from the album, Sloan & Barri's original 1965 recording of "Where Were You When I Needed You." Although the recording had been sitting around for the better part of a year, this did not hinder the song's obvious chart potential and the record became the Grass Roots' first top 40 hit in June of '66.

It seems Phil Sloan has made contradictory statements about exactly who did the honors. In the interview I'd read where Sloan insisted Fulton had sung lead, he'd reinforced his assertion by adding that the sheet music for the song featured a photo of the Fulton lineup of the band. Perhaps this one is destined to remain a mystery.   

Tom, I never said that Dunhill didn't want him (Phil) to sing lead on the songs because he couldn't tour behind them. I said that Dunhill didn't want the duo to tour, which would have taken them away from their songwriting and production duties. There was never any issue about who sang on the records. As much as Phil and Steve wanted to be an actual working band as the Grass Roots, you can't blame Dunhill for insisting that the duo concentrate on what they'd been hired to do: write songs and produce. It was Dunhill's suggestion that if Sloan & Barri wanted an actual Grass Roots, then they should go find an actual band to be the Grass Roots. That aspect wasn't tied to who performed on the records. The label obviously didn't have the same concerns regarding Phil issuing his own solo records on Dunhill. Although it wasn't an ideal scratch for Sloan & Barri's own creative itch, it did mean they'd have a band to write for and produce that was also free to go on the road.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:24:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7556&PID=38505&title=grass-roots-where-were-you-when#38505