https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 02 May 2026 11:39:55 +0000 Thu, 08 May 2014 20:19:08 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8097 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41354&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41354 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8097
Posted: 08 May 2014 at 8:19pm

eriejwg wrote: I have a promo 45 that runs 3:28. Perhaps, my copy runs slower that your source for editing.

More likely is that I neglected the very, very end of the
tail of the fade. I made sure I got the shape right, but
it's possible that the 45s extend a bit longer at the
really low volume.]]> Thu, 08 May 2014 20:19:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41354&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41354 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41352&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41352 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 8097
Posted: 08 May 2014 at 6:26pm

I have a promo 45 that runs 3:28. Perhaps, my copy runs
slower that your source for editing.]]> Thu, 08 May 2014 18:26:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41352&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41352 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41345&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41345 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 8097
Posted: 07 May 2014 at 2:02am

Thanks for the info and edit points. Very helpful.

Edited by Bwci Bo]]> Wed, 07 May 2014 02:02:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41345&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41345 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41337&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41337 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8097
Posted: 06 May 2014 at 7:58pm

The 45 is a straight edit and early fade of the LP version. The 45 plays at the same speed as the LP, unlike "Misunderstanding", which was sped up for the 45.

I have the LP version on the W. German Virgin Charisma pressing of Duke, which seems to be a preferred mastering for Duke. (The thread on the Steve Hoffman site is huge and unwieldy. You're welcome to read through it, but it will take days.) I think the common '80s-era US pressing is a different mastering, and is also pretty well regarded. The timings below are likely pretty close.

Remove the 4 hi-hat beats from 0:00.0 to 0:01.9 of the LP version.

Segment 1:
Starts on the first guitar strum
16 beats long
Extends from 0:00.0 to 0:07.8 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 0:01.9 to 0:09.8 of the LP version.

Remove the 10 (!) beats from 0:09.8 to 0:14.6 of the LP version. This is why the LP intro sounds weird for the first few listens - it's 4+16+10 beats long.

Segment 2:
Extends from 0:07.8 to 3:24.6 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 0:14.6 to 3:31.3 of the LP version.

Fade:
Begins on a crash cymbal
39 beats long (3 repetitions of 13-beat downbeat-to-downbeats; careful with the crazy time signature)
Extends from 3:06.7 to 3:24.6 of the 45 edit.
Extends from 3:13.4 to 3:31.3 of the LP version.

Your mixdown will run 3:24.6 with one edit at 0:07.8.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Tue, 06 May 2014 19:58:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8097&PID=41337&title=genesis-turn-it-on-again#41337