https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 08:25:06 +0000 Fri, 01 Jul 2022 20:57:03 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8228 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61172&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61172 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 8228
Posted: 01 July 2022 at 8:57pm

Michaeldila wrote: for anyone interested...manilow re-released his 1989 song "when the good times come again" as a digital single in 2020. however, this new version has additional instrumentation that is not present on the album version. while it wasn't originally issued as a single back then, i just discovered that there was a promo cd pressed. because i cannot find any information regarding a remix for this new (better) version, i am curious if this might be the digital debut of that promo cd? perhaps it was in fact remixed in '89 for radio play...? can anyone confirm? here's the new mix on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn8HVAVCcF0

I have the promo 1989 version but not on CD single, an actual 45. And I'm almost certain it's the same as the album mix.

I believe I read the 2020 remix was created after a fan made a music video (of the original mix) at the beginning of the pandemic due to the lyric being appropriate for what the world was going through in the early stages of the shutdown.

One of the key lines that stood out for me is:
Hope we both survive the world out there

That video started grabbing attention and so Arista head Clive Davis released the new mix of the song to AC radio, and it got up to #12 on the Billboard AC chart! Who would have guessed Manilow would have a nearly-top 10 AC hit in the 20's decade (with a 1989 recording, remixed?) Not me!



Edited by EdisonLite]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2022 20:57:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61172&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61172 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61171&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61171 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 8228
Posted: 01 July 2022 at 8:49pm

Just an update to CrapFromThePast's:

"Can't Smile Without You
TWO key changes, at 1:32 and 2:31"

There are actually 3 key changes in this song!

There's an additional one at 2:11]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2022 20:49:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61171&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61171 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61170&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61170 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 8228
Posted: 01 July 2022 at 8:46pm

I believe someone simply pulled the wrong mix. I even spoke to someone at Legacy/Sony, and he was unaware of the mix differences until I pointed them out to him.]]> Fri, 01 Jul 2022 20:46:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=61170&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#61170 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60998&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60998 Author: Scanner
Subject: 8228
Posted: 06 June 2022 at 7:46am

Thanks for confirming the Essential version of "Weep" is
different than all the others. I did not recall hearing
the Essential version on the radio or in the video for this
song either. Where did this version come from? Did
someone pull the wrong mix from the vault or was this
tweaked for Essential like Richard Carpenter always does on
every Carpenters compilation?]]> Mon, 06 Jun 2022 07:46:47 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60998&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60998 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60934&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60934 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8228
Posted: 01 June 2022 at 10:18am

Read 'Em And Weep

• No key change
• 1984 Arista 8102 GH II uses the 45 version, sounds good, decent dynamic range, OK EQ, no NR
• 1989 Arista 8600 GH Vol. 3 also uses the 45 version and probably uses same source tape as 1984 disc but a different analog transfer, decent dynamic range, slightly fuller EQ than 1984 disc (in a good way), no NR
• Essential sounds great but is a slightly different mix than the 45. Listen for additional background vocals from 2:40-2:47, which fill up the otherwise empty space in the 45 mix.
• Complete Collection is the promo 45 version, which is the same mix as the 45 (no background vocals from 2:40-2:47), and has one edit near the end of the song.

Preference for the 45 version, 1989 Arista 8600 GH Vol. 3

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Wed, 01 Jun 2022 10:18:54 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60934&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60934 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60744&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60744 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 8228
Posted: 28 April 2022 at 5:26pm

Just an aside, but I've never spotted a copy of the
"Greatest Hits" CD in the wild that didn't have a CRC
(Columbia House) mark on the back cover. At one point in
time, all the copies I could find on Ebay were also marked
CRC, judging from pics. ]]> Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:26:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60744&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60744 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60743&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60743 Author: Michaeldila
Subject: 8228
Posted: 27 April 2022 at 8:13pm

for anyone interested...manilow re-released his 1989 song "when the good
times come again" as a digital single in 2020. however, this new version has
additional instrumentation that is not present on the album version. while it
wasn't originally issued as a single back then, i just discovered that there
was
a promo cd pressed. because i cannot find any information regarding a
remix
for this new (better) version, i am curious if this might be the digital debut
of that
promo cd? perhaps it was in fact remixed in '89 for radio play...? can anyone
confirm? here's the new mix on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn8HVAVCcF0

Edited by Michaeldila]]> Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:13:50 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=60743&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#60743 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=59390&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#59390 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 8228
Posted: 23 October 2021 at 10:00pm

William (staytuned), I hadn't noticed any mix difference on "Some Kind of Friend". Maybe Mark M or Aaron can determine if there are any. As of my posting this, I see you have posted 3x on the site, so I'm assuming you're a new member - Welcome!

Above William's post, all other posts are from 2014, and even though I started this thread, I forgot about all the details that went into the replies from Ron G and others. I re-read the whole thread tonight. Interesting stuff.

Besides the key-changed "Ships", other post-"Greatest Hits" (1979) singles (top 40, well top 50) of Barry's to contain key changes are:

When I Wanted You
I Don't Want to Walk Without You
I Made It Through the Rain
Lonely Together
The Old Songs
Let's Hang On
Memory (this had about 4, it feels!)

And ones that didn't include:

Somewhere Down the Road
Some Kind of Friend
Read 'Em and Weep

Including "Ships", that's 8 with key changes and 3 without ... keeping his high ratio of modulations continuing on well past the release of his 1st greatest hits album :)]]> Sat, 23 Oct 2021 22:00:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=59390&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#59390 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=59352&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#59352 Author: staytuned
Subject: 8228
Posted: 16 October 2021 at 7:38pm

There are a couple of videos on YouTube suggesting that the
45 single for "Some Kind of Friend" has more reverb and
compression than the versions available on the original LP
and Greatest Hits compilations. Has anyone on this forum
compared the 45 version for mix differences? I can kinda
hear it, but I can't put my finger on anything that
specifically differentiates it as a different mix.

]]> Sat, 16 Oct 2021 19:38:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=59352&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#59352 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=42763&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#42763 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8228
Posted: 18 December 2014 at 8:55pm

One more track (I'll post them as they come up, but I'm not doing these in any particular order).

Ships

• Key change at 3:07
• 1984 Arista 8102 GH II sounds good, decent dynamic range, OK EQ, no NR
• 1989 Arista 8600 GH Vol. 3 probably uses same source tape as 1984 disc but a different analog transfer, decent dynamic range, slightly fuller EQ than 1984 disc (in a good way), no NR
• Ultimate is compressed with a smiley-face EQ
• Essential uses the same analog transfer as Ultimate and sounds very close to Ultimate.
• Complete Collection is a live version. Bleh.

Preference: 1989 Arista 8600 GH Vol. 3

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Thu, 18 Dec 2014 20:55:29 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8228&PID=42763&title=manilow-greatest-hits-different-versions#42763