https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Tue, 05 May 2026 08:23:33 +0000 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:56:37 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=828 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20533&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20533 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 828
Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:56pm

In that case, Todd, agreed.]]> Tue, 13 Jan 2009 19:56:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20533&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20533 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20530&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20530 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 828
Posted: 13 January 2009 at 4:23pm

John:

If this were strictly an issue of some instruments being mixed hotter than others, then I would agree about this being a "mix" issue. But what Abagon and I are saying is that the drums begin at a different spot on the 45 and LP, thus making them slightly different recordings. I submit that this crosses the line from "mix" to "version".

Edited by Todd Ireland]]> Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:23:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20530&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20530 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20528&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20528 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 828
Posted: 13 January 2009 at 11:20am

This is that gray area where what crosses the '45 mix' line and what crosses the '45 version' line. This, in my opinion, sounds like the guitars are mixed hotter on the 45, thereby getting a '45 mix' next to the lone database entry. If there were an edit involved along with a mix, then I would say it would be a '45 version'.

Although, for the benefit of my younger clients, I label everything 'single version' or 'single mix' in my business database, I labeled this song 'single mix' in my database.
Many of my brides have no recollection what a 45 is. They have to ask their parents!]]> Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:20:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20528&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20528 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20522&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20522 Author: Todd Ireland
Subject: 828
Posted: 13 January 2009 at 7:11am

Abagon was kind to send me an mp3 of the first :10 of the "I Won't Forget You" 45 and LP intro so that I could compare and contrast them more closely. There are clearly mix differences... The guitars are louder and buzzier on the 45, while the drums are more punchy and up front on the LP. But I also agree with Abagon that the first drum hit does indeed come in about a half second sooner on the 45 than on the LP. A direct A/B comparison verifies this when the two intros are synchronized. Therefore, I too am of the opinion that database comments for CDs containing "I Won't Forget You" should be revised to state "45 version" or "LP version".]]> Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:11:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20522&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20522 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20402&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20402 Author: abagon
Subject: 828
Posted: 06 January 2009 at 7:17am

Now the CD comments of this song have the "45 mix" or the "LP mix" on the database. This U.S. commercial 45 version has some differences from the LP version. I could easily understand that only the 45 version has the first drum sound at (0:02.6)! The first drum sound on the LP version is at (0:03.2). However, my stock LP is a Japanese product. Could anyone compare the 45 with the U.S. LP? If the Japan LP is the same as the U.S. LP. Those comments should be changed to the "45 version" or "LP version".

--abagon]]> Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:17:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=20402&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#20402 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=8650&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#8650 Author: edtop40
Subject: 828
Posted: 28 January 2007 at 6:25pm

i just bought the remastered cd "look what the cat dragged in" and it indeed does contain the remix 45 version of "i won't forget you" as track number 12.....we can finaly put this one to bed......]]> Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:25:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=8650&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#8650 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=8374&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#8374 Author: edtop40
Subject: 828
Posted: 04 January 2007 at 4:50pm

can anyone confirm the the remasterd cd "look what the cat dragged in" truely has the 45 mix on it??...because the mix differences are very subtle....]]> Thu, 04 Jan 2007 16:50:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=8374&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#8374 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4516&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4516 Author: Bill Cahill
Subject: 828
Posted: 23 April 2006 at 12:04pm

Pat thanks for the MP3s. It's clear that the 45 is a unique mix. The 1:37 guitar punch that is up front on the 45 is the dead giveaway. Aaron you are on the money on that. The 45 also ran slower on the MP3 I had.

As far as any difference between the Cat Dragged and Best Of, that's a tough one. "Best Of" could be a slight remix, or a mix similar to the LP version that was mislabled, or maybe the group had an earlier version of a 45 on Enigma and not Capitol?

Or, it could simply be that Capitol for "Best Of" used a stereo expander and compressed it. I don't hear any significant difference between the Cat Dragged and Best of Version except in EQ, compression and possibly reverb. The reverb could have been brought up by stereo expansion and compression. Or, like I said, it's a mix very close to the LP version that was mislabeled.

- Bill

]]> Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:04:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4516&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4516 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4335&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4335 Author: Pat Downey
Subject: 828
Posted: 12 April 2006 at 8:39pm

OK I have listened again to the 45, the cd "Look What The Cat Dragged In" and the cd "Best Of". What I hear on both of the cd's is a guitar introduction that sounds like there are 2 guitars playing, while on the 45 I hear only 1 guitar playing.]]> Wed, 12 Apr 2006 20:39:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4335&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4335 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4332&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4332 Author: aaronk
Subject: 828
Posted: 11 April 2006 at 10:43pm

I listened to the mp3s that were passed along, and I'll agree that there is a difference between the 45 & LP versions. I don't hear any difference in background vocals, though. The only differences I can hear are the guitar parts that Ed points out. For example, there's a guitar lick right around 1:37 that's much louder on the 45 (right before the line "although miles come between us"). Also on the "miles come between us" part, there's a difference in the guitar in the background. The LP version has an electric guitar at this part, while the 45 is using some other kind of guitar.]]> Tue, 11 Apr 2006 22:43:08 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=828&PID=4332&title=poison-i-wont-forget-you#4332