https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 05:14:19 +0000 Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:49:42 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8374 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43876&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43876 Author: aaronk
Subject: 8374
Posted: 18 June 2015 at 7:49pm

PM me. I can send you the actual 45 mix in pristine sound quality.]]> Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:49:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43876&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43876 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43875&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43875 Author: bitman
Subject: 8374
Posted: 18 June 2015 at 6:40pm

I recreated a 45 version approximation in which I used a 45 dub posted on YouTube as a guide. I folded down the stereo, added compression and some reverb on the last 20 seconds or so. It sounded like a match to me, but that comparison wasn't as meticulous as some of the pros here do...so I'll just call it a recreation...]]> Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:40:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43875&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43875 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43873&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43873 Author: aaronk
Subject: 8374
Posted: 18 June 2015 at 2:07pm

I agree, Brian, but it is possible that the mono LP used a fold down for
"Magic." I found a video on YouTube where someone had posted the
mono LP version of this song; however, the cover of the album shown
in the video is a greatest hits compilation and not the original LP. I
would still love to hear from someone who has an original mono LP to
see if the version on the vinyl is a fold-down like what is on the CD.]]> Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:07:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43873&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43873 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43872&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43872 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 8374
Posted: 18 June 2015 at 2:45am

aaronk wrote: That means that either 1) the mono LP version was just a fold down, or 2) Sundazed didn't have the mono tape, so they just folded the stereo. I don't have a mono LP to be able to compare.

Which makes one wonder about the rest of the songs on the
album...]]> Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:45:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43872&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43872 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43869&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43869 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 8374
Posted: 17 June 2015 at 5:43pm

Hmm ok. Perhaps I should've held off buying this until the reviews were out! Not to worry though. I'm happy with Hums Of The Lovin' Spoonful which I purchased at the same time.

]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:43:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43869&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43869 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43868&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43868 Author: aaronk
Subject: 8374
Posted: 17 June 2015 at 5:09pm

I hate to disappoint you, but "Do You Believe In Magic" is not the mono 45 mix. I just folded down the stereo version, and it's identical to the version on the Sundazed CD. That means that either 1) the mono LP version was just a fold down, or 2) Sundazed didn't have the mono tape, so they just folded the stereo. I don't have a mono LP to be able to compare.

Edited by aaronk]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:09:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43868&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43868 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43864&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43864 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 8374
Posted: 17 June 2015 at 3:22pm

Thanks for confirming this, Aaron. Admittedly, I'm not always the best at picking up on discrepancies like this but to my ears, this one stuck out like a sore thumb.

I didn't actually detect any evidence of a vinyl transfer either but assumed it might've been the case because I couldn't figure out why else they would've spliced on a new fade-out. But your theory is a good one. What a shame the bulk of the song sounds so muddy.

Here's hoping that "Do You Believe In Magic" is the correct 45 version and that it hasn't been modified in any way.

Edited by Bwci Bo]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2015 15:22:07 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43864&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43864 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43863&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43863 Author: aaronk
Subject: 8374
Posted: 17 June 2015 at 2:18pm

Bwci Bo wrote: However, I played Younger Girl from Do You Believe In Magic as this is probably the song I am most familiar with. (I don't see it listed in Pat's database so I'm guessing it didn't crack the Top 40 over there?) Anyway, I'm pretty sure that something's not quite right with this track on the CD. The song sounds rather dull throughout, but at 2:05 (just before the fade starts), I'm sure I can detect a splice where the audio becomes slightly brighter and there may also be a very slight pitch increase too. So perhaps this is another case of a folded down stereo intro/outro tacked onto a mono vinyl dub? If so, I have to admit that I'm a little disappointed, although not entirely surprised given the earlier comments about the lack of photographic evidence of a tape master for this album.

I just listened to "Younger Girl," and there is definitely a major change in sound quality at the point you mention, just before the fade. It doesn't sound like the earlier part of the track is a vinyl dub, but the high frequencies are rolled off at around 14kHz. The only possible explanation I can give is that the mono tape they had sounds like this (highs rolled off) and perhaps the fadeout on the tape was damaged, so they spliced on the stereo version folded to mono to replace a damaged section. It certainly does appear to be two different sources, but both sources sound like tape.]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:18:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43863&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43863 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43859&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43859 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 8374
Posted: 17 June 2015 at 4:11am

John, thanks for the additional info on Younger Girl. I'd never heard The Hondells' or The Critters' versions before now. After having just checked them out on YouTube, I can safely say that I like both of them as they're not too dissimilar to the original. I only ever heard The Lovin' Spoonful's version on local oldies radio stations while growing up here in NZ.

Edited by Bwci Bo]]> Wed, 17 Jun 2015 04:11:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43859&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43859 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43857&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43857 Author: Yah Shure
Subject: 8374
Posted: 16 June 2015 at 8:50pm

Bwci Bo wrote: I played Younger Girl from Do You Believe In Magic as this is probably the song I am most familiar with. (I don't see it listed in Pat's database so I'm guessing it didn't crack the Top 40 over there?)

Duane, the Lovin' Spoonful version of "Younger Girl" wasn't issued as a single A- or B-side on Kama Sutra in the U.S. There were two cover versions that charted the same week in 1966, by the Critters on Kapp (#42 BB) and the Hondells on Mercury (#52 BB.) They sounded fairly similar to each other and the title may well have hit the top 40 if the two competing covers hadn't split the sales and airplay.

The version heard on the radio at the time tended to come down to where the listener was located, with the East Coast favoring the New Jersey-based Critters and the West opting for California's Hondells. Here in the Twin Cities, it was Hondells turf exclusively.

Edited by Yah Shure]]> Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:50:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8374&PID=43857&title=lovin-spoonful-in-mono-on-cd#43857