https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 08:29:52 +0000 Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:31:52 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8522 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62273&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62273 Author: LunarLaugh
Subject: 8522
Posted: 26 November 2022 at 12:31pm

Two words: Pure Moods.]]> Sat, 26 Nov 2022 12:31:52 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62273&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62273 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62267&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62267 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 8522
Posted: 24 November 2022 at 12:53pm

mjb50 wrote: Heh. Pretention certainly results in split opinions—you either love it or hate it (Björk comes to mind)—but it sure gets your attention, doesn't it? I mean, despite being heavily based on Soul II Soul's "Keep On Movin'" beats, Enigma had a fresh sound. And it's just pop, not really high art, right? Well, it was fresh as long as you weren't too familiar with Sandra & Cretu's previous Euro synth-dance-pop work, which I wasn't, at the time. I did always think the shakuhachi-flute keyboard riffs were a bad choice (it's basically a preset that came with certain Korg digital keyboards), but still, I was excited about "sleaze", ambient house, and Balearic Beat; I thought it was cool that these downtempo vibes from the dance world were making inroads into pop. I was also still a teenager and just excited about anything new and different in pop, no matter how ridiculous ("Bring Me Edelweiss", anyone?).

Bringing Björk into the conversation works! However, I did find her tendency to growl while singing kind-of weird. Maybe that's why I didn't fit in well with the Gen-X music alternatives.]]> Thu, 24 Nov 2022 12:53:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62267&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62267 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62266&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62266 Author: mjb50
Subject: 8522
Posted: 24 November 2022 at 4:56am

Heh. Pretention certainly results in split opinions—you either love it or hate it (Björk comes to mind)—but it sure gets your attention, doesn't it? I mean, despite being heavily based on Soul II Soul's "Keep On Movin'" beats, Enigma had a fresh sound. And it's just pop, not really high art, right?

Well, it was fresh as long as you weren't too familiar with Sandra & Cretu's previous Euro synth-dance-pop work, which I wasn't, at the time.

I did always think the shakuhachi-flute keyboard riffs were a bad choice (it's basically a preset that came with certain Korg digital keyboards), but still, I was excited about "sleaze", ambient house, and Balearic Beat; I thought it was cool that these downtempo vibes from the dance world were making inroads into pop. I was also still a teenager and just excited about anything new and different in pop, no matter how ridiculous ("Bring Me Edelweiss", anyone?).]]> Thu, 24 Nov 2022 04:56:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62266&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62266 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62264&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62264 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 8522
Posted: 23 November 2022 at 8:38pm

O/T, it's really odd how this became a hit for this couple. I first heard it and was thinking this was a song headed nowhere. I didn't like the background whisper singing of Sandra. (I also,
didn't know it was her until a lot later), as I mostly disregarded the track as pretentious and quite useless. However, I really did like her work with Hubert Kah. I guess it was Michael Cretu
that I didn't care for music-wise. To this day, I still turn it off when given the opportunity. IMHO, a song with a face only appreciated on radio.

I also heard it once or twice on Casey's Top-40. Not much anywhere else besides radio.]]> Wed, 23 Nov 2022 20:38:39 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62264&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62264 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62247&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62247 Author: mjb50
Subject: 8522
Posted: 22 November 2022 at 10:01pm

I am always a bit perplexed by the "part I" in the title.

On the album, the original versions are like this:

[track 2:] Principles of Lust: A. Sadeness, B. Find Love, C. Sadeness (Reprise)
[track 3:] Callas Went Away
[track 4:] Mea Culpa

The first two singles released were called "Sadeness part I" and "Mea Culpa part II". But it's not like there's other parts of each song. It's more just like "Sadeness is part 1, and Mea Culpa is part 2".

It would be correct to say "Sadeness" is part 1 of the album's "Principles of Lust" suite. The Radio Edit is almost identical to the album version, just fading out instead of segueing into the next part, and having a slightly different unsegued intro.

But "Mea Culpa" certainly isn't part 2 of anything, unless they mean it's the 2nd of the album's singles. Meanwhile, the third single, "Principles of Lust", has no part number, and it is just "Find Love" under a new name.

OK, I realize it's not supposed to make sense. Apparently, the "part I" / "part II" is just continuing the pseudo-medieval/classical aesthetic. But my brain wants it to have a purpose! I also want to think of the songs as just "Sadeness" and "Mea Culpa".

Anyway, just musing.

Edited by mjb50]]> Tue, 22 Nov 2022 22:01:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=62247&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#62247 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45242&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45242 Author: MMathews
Subject: 8522
Posted: 15 March 2016 at 12:29am

Thank you Smokin' !

And I fixed my typo in the subject line. Was typing in a
rush...
MM ]]> Tue, 15 Mar 2016 00:29:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45242&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45242 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45241&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45241 Author: Smokin' TomGary
Subject: 8522
Posted: 14 March 2016 at 3:05pm

Stock CD 7567-96395-2 has 5 cuts, 4 are Sadeness.
1. Sadeness Part 1 (Violent U.S. Mix) 5:03 listed; 5:05 actual
2. Sadeness Part 1 (Meditation Mix) 3:01 listed; 2:59 actual
3. Sadeness Part 1 (Extended Trance Mix) 5:04 listed; 4:58 actual
4. Sadeness Part 1 (Radio Edit) 4:17 listed; 4:14 actual

Promo CD PRCD-032 Sadeness Part 1 (Radio Edit) 4:17 listed; 4:14 actual

Artist's name is Enigma.]]> Mon, 14 Mar 2016 15:05:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45241&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45241 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45238&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45238 Author: MMathews
Subject: 8522
Posted: 14 March 2016 at 12:30pm

Can anyone provide the actual single run time? I'm told
the pop annual lists it as 4:04 but CD issues run about
4:14 - 4:15...
MM

Edited by MMathews]]> Mon, 14 Mar 2016 12:30:03 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8522&PID=45238&title=enigma-sadeness-part-1#45238