https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 17:48:35 +0000 Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:58:05 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8629 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59846&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59846 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8629
Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:58pm

crapfromthepast wrote: The stereo mix first appeared three years after the song was a hit, in 1961 on the album The Bobby Darin Story, as David reported above. If you're looking for whatever the "hit" stereo mix was, there wasn't any. All the stereo mixes were done years later.

I generally avoid versions that Pat labels that are missing stuff or not accurate. Pat's database notated that many versions were missing the bubbles at the end. I never said I was looking for a "hit" mix in Stereo. I actually said of all the stereo versions, Eric Records was the one I would go with and Mark explained the very reason I did.

Thanks Ron for your clarification.

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:58:05 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59846&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59846 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59845&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59845 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8629
Posted: 21 December 2021 at 6:53pm

MMathews wrote: Richie, the version I created for the Hit Parade CD is not DES. I used an existing source for the very-dry stereo mix and that CD was the Atco 91794 CD "Splish Splash" (a best of) which has the bubbles at the end. I then re-created the heavy 45 reverb and mixed it in. That is why it sounds like the mono hit. MM

Ah that explains it. You did such a fantastic job on it Mark! Still as I explained for Stereo its my go to version.]]> Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:53:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59845&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59845 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59828&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59828 Author: MMathews
Subject: 8629
Posted: 20 December 2021 at 10:23pm

PopArchivist wrote: Ron, There is a hum on many of the recordings in mono (I would suggest to avoid), I agree and second your choice of Hit Singles 1958-1977 for the 45 version. However Eric Records (Hard To Find Jukebox Classics The Fifties: 31 Amazing Stereo Hits) would be my go to for the stereo version (even if it is DES) as it contains the bubbling sounds at the end, correctly matching the mono 45. Every version in stereo was either re-recorded after it became a hit or has the missing bubbling sound effects at the end.

Richie, the version I created for the Hit Parade CD is
not DES. I used an existing source for the very-dry
stereo mix and that CD was the Atco 91794 CD "Splish
Splash" (a best of) which has the bubbles at the end. I
then re-created the heavy 45 reverb and mixed it in.
That is why it sounds like the mono hit.

MM]]> Mon, 20 Dec 2021 22:23:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59828&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59828 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59825&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59825 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8629
Posted: 20 December 2021 at 8:32pm

The only version released in 1958 was mono. The 45 was mono. The 1958 Atco Bobby Darin vinyl LP was only available in mono.

The stereo mix first appeared three years after the song was a hit, in 1961 on the album The Bobby Darin Story, as David reported above. If you're looking for whatever the "hit" stereo mix was, there wasn't any. All the stereo mixes were done years later.

The stereo version without the bubbles is found on Fun Rock (1986). I just noticed that the bubbles on the intro have their left and right channels out-of-phase (they mono to a reduced volume level). The Time-Life disc corrects the intro, but still sounds like mud.

The stereo version with the bubbles is found on Razor & Tie's 2-CD Heroes Of Rock And Roll (1995), with the same analog transfer being used for Time-Life's 2-CD Glory Days Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 10 Great Rockers (2000).

Same stereo mix for both (as far as my ears can tell), but only one has bubbles overdubbed on the outro. I don't know which version was actually released, but I'd bet a nickel that it was the one that included the bubbles.

I don't know of any rerecordings of the song.

Edited by crapfromthepast]]> Mon, 20 Dec 2021 20:32:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59825&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59825 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59824&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59824 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8629
Posted: 20 December 2021 at 6:28pm

davidclark wrote: Pop, There are many domestic CDs with the stereo version that have the bubbles at the end. I have yet to hear a no-bubbles version, but I see there are several on CD.I have never heard a remake of the song.

It may be that domestically Pat has not found a version that he is aware of that has the bubbles at the end. If you know of where one is on CD please let me know. As good as the Eric Records one is, I am always happy to have a true stereo classic on CD as correct as the 45. Plenty of re-recordings out there.

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Mon, 20 Dec 2021 18:28:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59824&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59824 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59817&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59817 Author: davidclark
Subject: 8629
Posted: 19 December 2021 at 5:19am

Pop,

There are many domestic CDs with the stereo version that have the bubbles
at the end. I have yet to hear a no-bubbles version, but I see there are
several on CD.

The stereo mix was first issued on 1961 LP "The Bobby Darin Story" (albeit
with an 0:43 intro from Bobby that I seem to recall cut into the song). I do
not know if the bubbles were at the end of that, but the CD issues seem to
say they were not according to Pat (that, of course, does not necessarily
mean the same for the LP).

I have never heard a remake of the song.]]> Sun, 19 Dec 2021 05:19:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59817&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59817 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59810&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59810 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8629
Posted: 18 December 2021 at 3:51pm

AdvprosD wrote: Ron noted above that on the Atlantic Hit Singles the version was in mono. Was this one of the mono versions with the hum?

No, I've heard a few versions with a hum, but I have always went with the Atlantic comps more so than anything else. The Atlantic does not have any issues. I could be hearing things but when you have 20 versions to listen to, you might pick up on things others do not. There are also versions that include about a 40 second intro as well, they are not the 45 version. The stereo versions on CD that were released domestically are missing the end water bubbling sound effects.

The 45 version in mono is on numerous comps. If you want stereo avoid everything but Hard to Find Jukebox Classics since none match the 45 exactly.]]> Sat, 18 Dec 2021 15:51:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59810&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59810 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59809&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59809 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 8629
Posted: 18 December 2021 at 2:29pm

PopArchivist wrote: Ron, There is a hum on many of the recordings in mono (I would suggest to avoid), I agree and second your choice of Hit Singles 1958-1977 for the 45 version. .

Ron noted above that on the Atlantic Hit Singles the version was in mono. Was this one of the mono versions with the hum?]]> Sat, 18 Dec 2021 14:29:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59809&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59809 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59808&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59808 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 8629
Posted: 18 December 2021 at 12:58pm

Ron,

There is a hum on many of the recordings in mono (I would suggest to avoid), I agree and second your choice of Hit Singles 1958-1977 for the 45 version.

However Eric Records (Hard To Find Jukebox Classics The Fifties: 31 Amazing Stereo Hits) would be my go to for the stereo version (even if it is DES) as it contains the bubbling sounds at the end, correctly matching the mono 45. Every version in stereo was either re-recorded after it became a hit or has the missing bubbling sound effects at the end.]]> Sat, 18 Dec 2021 12:58:22 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=59808&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#59808 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8629&PID=46335&title=bobby-darin-splish-splash#46335 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 8629
Posted: 02 October 2016 at 7:55pm

I think the only versions released in 1958 included a bubbling sound effect at the end of the song.

For stereo, the version on Warner Special Products' 2-CD Fun Rock (1986) sounds nice, but lacks the bubbling sound effect at the end. If you crank up the fade, you can hear the instruments drop out until just a ride cymbal remains.

The stereo version on Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 5 1958 RE-1 (1987) also lacks the bubbling at the end, and sounds far worse than the Fun Rock version - much higher-generation source tapes, fades a little earlier, and runs faster than Fun Rock. The same analog transfer is used for Warner Special Products' 2-CD Bop (1989).

There's a new stereo analog transfer on Razor & Tie's 2-CD Heroes Of Rock And Roll (1995), which indeed has the bubbling sound effect at the end. Finally! The same analog transfer is used for Time-Life's 2-CD Glory Days Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 10 Great Rockers (2000).

I have the mono version on Warner Special Products' The Ultimate Bobby Darin (1986), which includes a boatload of reverb compared with the stereo version. There's a tape dropout from 0:15 to 0:17 in the left channel. There are two or three minor dropouts later on, noticeable only with headphones. Aside from the dropouts, the sound is also quite nice here - excellent dynamic range, nice EQ, and a nice hissy fade with no evidence of noise reduction. The same analog transfer is used for:

• Atlantic's Hit Singles 1958-1977 (1988; uses only one channel of Ultimate, and therefore avoids the dropout)
• Warner Special Products' 2-CD Night Beat (1988; includes dropout)
• Time-Life's Rock 'N' Roll Era Vol. 5 1958 RE-2 (1992; uses only one channel of Ultimate, and therefore avoids the dropout)

All of the mono versions include the bubbling sound effect at the end.

My recommendations (from my admittedly small CD collection):

For the mono version - Atlantic's Hit Singles 1958-1977 (1988)

For the stereo version - Time-Life's 2-CD Glory Days Of Rock 'N' Roll Vol. 10 Great Rockers (2000), which should be easier to find than the Razor & Tie disc.

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