https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 01:48:05 +0000 Sun, 20 May 2018 08:25:23 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=8859 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49348&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49348 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 20 May 2018 at 8:25am

Chartman wrote: Here are the biggest discrepancies between 2017 peak positions on the Country Airplay (CA) and Hot Country Songs (HCS) charts:

In a similar vain - I treated the R&B/Hip-Hop charts the same as the C&W charts since 10/20/12 - The Airplay chart was considered a continuation of the old R&B chart but the new R&B chart was considered a "hybrid" chart. For songs that peaked on these charts 2013-2017 here are some facts:

1508 Total songs
515 made both charts
727 were only on the Hybrid chart (301 for 1 week, 119 for 2 weeks)
266 were only on the Airplay chart (24 for 1 week, 9 for 2 weeks)

Artists with the most songs that were only on the Hybrid chart:
Drake - 69 songs
Future - 36 songs
The Weeknd - 25 songs
Kendrick Lamar - 24 songs
Meek Mill - 24 songs

Artists with the most songs that were only on the Airplay chart:
R. Kelly - 6 songs
Charlie Wilson - 5 songs
After 7, Eric Benet, Mary J. Blige, Johnny Gill, Joe, Sam Smith & Jazmine Sullivan - 4 songs

Highest peaking songs on the Hybrid chart which didn't make the Airplay chart:
"Black Widow" by Iggy Azalea - #1
"23" by Mike WiLL Made-It, "Bad Things" by Machine Gun Kelly, "Berzerk" by Eminem, "Me, Myself & I" by G-Eazy, "Rap God" by Eminem, "Talk Dirty" by Jason Derulo and "Wiggle" by Jason Derulo - all were #2

Highest peaking songs on the Airplay chart which didn't make the Hybrid chart:
"Royals" by Lorde - #3
"Latch" by Sam Smith and "Uptown Funk!" by Mark Ronson - both #5
"Hello" by Adele, "Spend It" by Dae Dae and "Stay With Me" by Sam Smith - all were #10

#1 songs on the Hybrid chart which didn't do so well on the Airplay chart:
"Can't Feel My Face" by The Weeknd - #46 on Airplay
"Can't Hold Us" by Macklemore & Ryan Lewis - #45 on Airplay
"FourFiveSeconds" by Rihanna - #36 on Airplay
"Anaconda" by Nicki Minaj - #22 on Airplay
"The Monster" by Eminem - #22 on Airplay

#1 songs on the Airplay chart which didn't do so well on the Hybrid chart:
"Good Kisser" by Usher - #17 on Hybrid
"Both" by Gucci Mane - #16 on Hybrid
and
"How About Now" by Drake - #6 on Airplay but only #50 on Hybrid

These discrepancies are actually much worse than those on the C&W chart. One could make the argument that the R&B charts should use Airplay chart as the main chart since 2012 - just like the C&W charts. The current R&B/Airplay chart is merely a reflection of crossover potential and what Billboard considers to be "R&B/Hip-Hop" artists but not much correlation to what R&B/Hip-Hop radio stations are playing, although the R&B/Hip-Hop audience are big on streaming. Quite a few generalizations in there!

Edited by Chartman]]> Sun, 20 May 2018 08:25:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49348&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49348 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49271&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49271 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 02 May 2018 at 10:00am

Here the Bubbling Under chart info:

https://www26.zippyshare.com/v/nQlSGqTY/file.html
]]> Wed, 02 May 2018 10:00:48 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49271&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49271 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49267&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49267 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 01 May 2018 at 10:31am

I checked the "Chart Fax" bubbling under list and came
up with this:

118 total songs listed with 93 eventually making the
Top 100

Of the 25 remaining songs there were 3 that I'm not
sure existed:
"I Only Want To Be With You" by Lynn Bailey on F&L
"I'm Gonna Let Go" by Jackie Pope on Hitbound
"Real Cowboys Never Cry" by Jerry Graham on Arena

Haven't found anything on them yet but I'll keep
looking.]]> Tue, 01 May 2018 10:31:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49267&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49267 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49264&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49264 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 30 April 2018 at 1:31pm

Paul Haney wrote: After checking my notes, it appears that the Country "Bubbling Under" chart (as it were) started in the 9/6/80 issue on page 31. It was actually part of Sharon Allen's "Chart Fax" column and not a stand-alone chart. It only showed 5 positions and wasn't published every week. I'm not sure when it ended. I can see why we never really bothered with it, as it isn't a "proper" chart, but I thought you might be interested.

"Chart" ended on 5/31/81. Robyn Wells took over the
duties earlier that year.]]> Mon, 30 Apr 2018 13:31:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49264&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49264 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49263&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49263 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 8859
Posted: 30 April 2018 at 10:17am

Double post.

Edited by Paul Haney]]> Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:17:45 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49263&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49263 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49262&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49262 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 8859
Posted: 30 April 2018 at 10:17am

When I refer to a "pasted-up chart" I mean that we cut out the actual charts from the magazine(s) and literally pasted them into a sketch book to make for easier researching. That said, our 4/7/51 DJ chart was hand created by whoever was doing the pasting at the time from the "last week" positions on the 4/14/51 chart. I believe there was no actual chart published for that particular week.

After checking my notes, it appears that the Country "Bubbling Under" chart (as it were) started in the 9/6/80 issue on page 31. It was actually part of Sharon Allen's "Chart Fax" column and not a stand-alone chart. It only showed 5 positions and wasn't published every week. I'm not sure when it ended. I can see why we never really bothered with it, as it isn't a "proper" chart, but I thought you might be interested.

Edited by Paul Haney]]> Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:17:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49262&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49262 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49261&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49261 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 30 April 2018 at 9:52am

Paul Haney wrote: Did you know that Billboard also had a Country Bubbling Under chart for awhile circa late 70s, early 80s?

Didn't know this so I went a searching! Checked 30
issues between October, 1977 to October, 1982 (pretty
much every other month) and didn't see this chart
anywhere. Either I'm blind or this chart was only
available for a couple of weeks. Do you have specific
dates for this chart?

For the 4/7/51 DJ chart - do you just have a pasted-up
chart or do you have the original chart? I don't have
the "coming up" info for this chart and there is no
way to guestimate it.

Thanks

Edited by Chartman]]> Mon, 30 Apr 2018 09:52:25 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49261&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49261 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49260&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49260 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 8859
Posted: 30 April 2018 at 5:04am

Thanks for the info, Chartman. Doubt if there's time to get it in this edition as I have lots of other info to enter (Pop positions, songwriters, etc.). Did you know that Billboard also had a Country Bubbling Under chart for awhile circa late 70s, early 80s?]]> Mon, 30 Apr 2018 05:04:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49260&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49260 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49258&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49258 Author: Chartman
Subject: 8859
Posted: 29 April 2018 at 5:41pm

Hey Paul - your wish is my command!

https://www110.zippyshare.com/v/1skCXV6T/file.html

PS I offer a 100% money back guarantee
]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2018 17:41:21 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49258&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49258 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49257&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49257 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 8859
Posted: 29 April 2018 at 11:24am

Chartman wrote: For the "coming up" portion of the C&W charts 3/3/51 to 6/7/52: There were 69 songs that did not appear on the Top 10 C&W charts - 6 of which appeared on the BB Pop charts and 3 which appeared on the Cash Box C&W JB charts, which were also only 10 positions deep. There were 87 songs which did make the Top 10 - sometimes before, sometimes after, and sometimes before and after their Top 10 chart run. Similar to early bubbling under charts. There were a few weeks where the coming up songs were not shown on a particular chart and not always 3 deep but never more than 3. Of these 87, there were 26 that made the Top 10 of a different chart - i.e. the song made the Top 10 on the DJ chart but was shown as a coming up on the BS chart. I can put a spreadsheet on zippyshare if you're interested.

Would like to see that, for sure!]]> Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:24:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8859&PID=49257&title=top-pop-albums-19552016#49257