https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 13 Apr 2026 02:10:09 +0000 Mon, 01 Jan 2024 21:21:10 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9151 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64214&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64214 Author: NightAire
Subject: 9151
Posted: 01 January 2024 at 9:21pm

Ron, you may be right; maybe it's not lossy, but aggressive noise reduction. It doesn't SOUND especially lossy.

For the moment I've gone with your advice to use the Rhino version, applied some declipping and I'll see if it sounds noisy on the air. If it does, I'll for sure be going with the LP mix.

I continue to be so thankful for this group for sorting on what the "real" versions of songs are!]]> Mon, 01 Jan 2024 21:21:10 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64214&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64214 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64213&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64213 Author: VWestlife
Subject: 9151
Posted: 01 January 2024 at 5:06pm

The 45 mix of "Key Largo" also sounds like it has more reverb than the album mix, but at least on the Rhino box set, definitely sounds like a higher-generation tape copy -- the treble is rolled off and the stereo imaging is diffuse.]]> Mon, 01 Jan 2024 17:06:55 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64213&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64213 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64212&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64212 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 9151
Posted: 01 January 2024 at 1:24pm

Tom Daly worked on that Eric Records CD (as the sound engineer) which explains the noise reduction on that release.

That may have been the final CD that Bill Buster used Tom for. From that point on Bill went with Mark Mathews and Walt Weiskopf (both who refused to apply any
noise reduction).]]> Mon, 01 Jan 2024 13:24:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64212&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64212 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64211&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64211 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9151
Posted: 01 January 2024 at 12:04pm

Gene - The spectrum on the Hard To Find disc does look a little weird, with an odd cutoff at 16 kHz, and the drum hits going up to 19 kHz.

Based on my experience with the Eric discs (this one is from 2012), I'd guess that the artifacts are from added noise reduction, and not a lossy source.

If you want the 45 mix, I'd recommend Rhino's Like Omigod (2002), which has a normal-looking spectrum.

If you're wondering which version to use on the air, I'd vote for using the LP mix, which sounds better than the Eric and Rhino CDs. Listeners won't know the difference (it took *us* about 40 years to figure it out!), and you'll have a lot less hiss.]]> Mon, 01 Jan 2024 12:04:53 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64211&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64211 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64209&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64209 Author: NightAire
Subject: 9151
Posted: 01 January 2024 at 12:24am

I'd love to have somebody else look and confirm this -- but does it seem to anybody else like the copy of Key Largo on "Hard To Find 45s Vol. 14 - 70s & 80s Pop Classics" from 2012 is a lossy track, or is my copy just bad?]]> Mon, 01 Jan 2024 00:24:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=64209&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#64209 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63500&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63500 Author: aaronk
Subject: 9151
Posted: 17 August 2023 at 8:10am

I don't think a new mix was made for the single. It's likely a new mix was made for the album for the speculative reasons I mentioned in the initial post.]]> Thu, 17 Aug 2023 08:10:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63500&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63500 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63499&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63499 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9151
Posted: 17 August 2023 at 1:48am

Thanks Ron. For such a small difference in mixes, it's somewhat surprising that
they did a new mix for the single. It's not like they made it any punchier, or a
more elaborate arrangement ala the single mix of BJ's "Piano Man" which is
AMAZING and much better than the mix that virtually every knows these days.]]> Thu, 17 Aug 2023 01:48:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63499&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63499 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63457&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63457 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9151
Posted: 11 August 2023 at 5:05am

Yes, indeed.

For the 45 mix, I use Rhino's Like Omigod.

For the LP mix, I use a mail-order 2-CD collection called Reflections Of Love, but it's also on many others.]]> Fri, 11 Aug 2023 05:05:15 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63457&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63457 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63456&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63456 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9151
Posted: 11 August 2023 at 1:46am

Interesting Ron. Have both mixes been released on CD?]]> Fri, 11 Aug 2023 01:46:04 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63456&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63456 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63449&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63449 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9151
Posted: 10 August 2023 at 1:01pm

If you're still looking for a difference between the mixes, the panning of an acoustic guitar moves from right/center in the 45 mix to left/center in the LP mix.

Listen to the line "wrapped around each other" - the downbeat guitar strum at the beginning of the word "other" at 0:21. The panning of that acoustic guitar remains constant throughout the song (for example, listen to the first line of the chorus, "we had it all"), and different for the 45 and LP mixes.

Small difference, for sure, but at least something concrete to identify which mix is which.]]> Thu, 10 Aug 2023 13:01:27 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9151&PID=63449&title=bertie-higgins-key-largo#63449