https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 06 May 2026 05:43:07 +0000 Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:54:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9260 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54113&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54113 Author: jebsib
Subject: 9260
Posted: 13 April 2020 at 2:54pm

I do get that; I wonder though whether the time is coming when peak dates
make almost more sense. We are no longer in the Casey American Top 40 age
when chart runs are linear and easy to decipher based on debut week.

Edited by jebsib]]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 14:54:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54113&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54113 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54112&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54112 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 9260
Posted: 13 April 2020 at 12:37pm

jebsib wrote: Have you guys ever considered peak dates in your singles books, or is it too much info to display?

We've always kept the peak dates exclusive to our Annual
books. I suppose they COULD be shown, but not sure how
that would layout would work.]]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 12:37:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54112&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54112 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54111&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54111 Author: jebsib
Subject: 9260
Posted: 13 April 2020 at 11:59am

Have you guys ever considered peak dates in your singles books, or is
it too much info to display?]]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 11:59:13 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54111&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54111 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54108&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54108 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 9260
Posted: 13 April 2020 at 8:55am

Scanner wrote: Thanks, Paul. Do current or future Albums books also note the peak year if it is not the first entry or following year? Using my earlier example, Whitney's album was released in 2000, but peaked in 2012. How, if at all, does the Pop Albums book indicate this?

Because catalog albums can now re-renter the Top 200 at
any time, we just update the peak position and weeks
charted as necessary. We don't show peak dates in that
book, so there's really no way to tell what year it truly
peaked in. ]]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 08:55:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54108&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54108 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54105&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54105 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9260
Posted: 13 April 2020 at 7:44am

Thanks, Paul. Do current or future Albums books also
note the peak year if it is not the first entry or
following year? Using my earlier example, Whitney's
album was released in 2000, but peaked in 2012. How, if
at all, does the Pop Albums book indicate this?]]> Mon, 13 Apr 2020 07:44:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54105&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54105 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54075&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54075 Author: jebsib
Subject: 9260
Posted: 11 April 2020 at 9:47am

Top Pop Singles 2018 does it right (given the current re-entry behavior
patterns)]]> Sat, 11 Apr 2020 09:47:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54075&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54075 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54073&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54073 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 9260
Posted: 11 April 2020 at 4:32am

In the most recent edition of Top Pop Singles (1955-2018),
we have combined the multiple seasonal re-entries. We
show just the first entry and combine the peak position
and total weeks charted. We highlight the yearly stats in
title trivia.]]> Sat, 11 Apr 2020 04:32:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54073&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54073 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54063&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54063 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9260
Posted: 10 April 2020 at 8:33am

Now that the same Christmas songs return annually to
the charts, how many times will they be included in an
artist's chart history in any Record Research
publication? For example, will Mariah's "All..." be
listed in each year that it charted on the Hot 100 or
just once with a No. 1 peak in 2019 with the Weeks On
Chart reflecting all the years the song appeared on
the Hot 100? Since the Hot 100 is now a song, not
record, chart, I would think the latter is more
appropriate. I recall older Hot Country Songs books
listed the same Christmas song in every year that it
charted which I felt inflated the number of chart
entries and points of artists that were more popular
from the '90's forward.

With even nonseasonal songs and albums returning to
the charts, has Record Research considered adding a
peak date column in addition to the Chart Entry date
for both its songs and albums books? Most of these
songs sadly return when an artist passes as most
recently shown by Kenny Rogers on Hot Country Songs.    
But, albums will often chart higher than when
originally released. For example, "The Very Best Of
Donna Summer" and "Whitney - The Greatest Hits" both
returned to the Billboard 200 and surpassed their
original peaks when released after both artists passed
away. Online discounts also used to create new peaks
as it did for hits collections by Phil Collins and the
Bee Gees.]]> Fri, 10 Apr 2020 08:33:26 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54063&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54063 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54059&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54059 Author: Paul Haney
Subject: 9260
Posted: 10 April 2020 at 4:22am

thecdguy wrote: I've been wondering that myself. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mariah Carey's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" peak at #3 in the first week in January of 2019, before dropping off and re-entering and going to #1 in December? If so, I imagine if Joel continues to list the Christmas hits peaking in January as peaking in December in the Pop Annual books, that Mariah would be listed in 2018 as peaking at #3, and #1 in 2019.

That is correct. When I enter the information in our
database, I enter the actual date. However, we have an
"alternate peak date" field for those Xmas hits, in order
to keep them in December.]]> Fri, 10 Apr 2020 04:22:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54059&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54059 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54057&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54057 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 9260
Posted: 10 April 2020 at 3:17am

I've been wondering that myself. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Mariah Carey's "All I Want For Christmas Is You" peak at #3 in the first week in January of 2019, before dropping off and re-entering and going to #1 in December? If so, I imagine if Joel continues to list the Christmas hits peaking in January as peaking in December in the Pop Annual books, that Mariah would be listed in 2018 as peaking at #3, and #1 in 2019.]]> Fri, 10 Apr 2020 03:17:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9260&PID=54057&title=whitburns-2016-pop-annual-book-question#54057