https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sun, 03 May 2026 11:24:13 +0000 Sun, 21 Apr 2024 07:58:46 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9435 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=64671&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#64671 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 9435
Posted: 21 April 2024 at 7:58am

There are tons of UK 45s that were not identical to the US 45s when they were released in the 60s, 70s and 80s. One I discovered recently is the cover of "Help Me Make It Through The Night" by Gladys Knight & the Pips.
When Tamla Motown released the UK 45 in late 1972 they cut out completely the spoken word intro. The US 45s (both the commercial and promo releases on the Soul label) all had the spoken word intro intact.

Another similar 45 difference is "The Day I Found Myself" by Honey Cone from early 1972. The UK 45 on the Hot Wax label has no spoken word intro while the US 45 does. However, it's not just the intro that is trimmed off.
On the UK 45 the lead singer (Edna Wright) opens by singing the title of the song before the rest of the lyrics (which does not happen on the US 45). ]]> Sun, 21 Apr 2024 07:58:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=64671&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#64671 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56171&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56171 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9435
Posted: 06 October 2020 at 2:08pm

On the radio show, I did essentially an entire episode of singles that had different versions in the US and UK. Here are highlights from the playlist:

PUMP UP THE VOLUME [UK version] - M|A|R|R|S (1987)
KISS [UK edit] - Art of Noise and Tom Jones (1988)
I NEED A LOVER [UK single version] - John Cougar Mellencamp (1979)
GIVE ME THE NIGHT [UK 12 inch single version] - George Benson (1980)
ON BROADWAY [UK single version] - George Benson (1978)
OUR HOUSE [UK 12 inch single version] - Madness (1983)
CRY FOR HELP [UK single version] - Rick Astley (1991)
PROMISES PROMISES [UK version] - Naked Eyes (1983)
THE POWER OF LOVE [UK Fore version] - Huey Lewis And The News (1985)
WHO ARE YOU [UK 45 version] - The Who (1978)
THRILLER [UK 45 version] - Michael Jackson (1984)
OFF THE WALL [UK single version] - Michael Jackson (1980)
WHISPER TO A SCREAM (BIRDS FLY) [UK version] - Icicle Works (1984)
SMOOTH OPERATOR [non-hit UK LP version] - Sade (1985)
SITUATION [B-side of UK Only You 45] - Yazoo (1982)
(HOW TO BE A) MILLIONAIRE [UK single version] - ABC (1984)
DREAM ON DREAMER [UK single version] - Brand New Heavies (1994)
LAY YOUR HANDS ON ME [UK single version] - Thompson Twins (1985)
SULTANS OF SWING [UK version edit] - Dire Straits (1979)
MARY'S PRAYER [UK hit version] - Danny Wilson (1987)

You might find the whole show interesting (https://archive.org/details/cftp-2019-04-26).]]> Tue, 06 Oct 2020 14:08:17 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56171&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56171 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56170&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56170 Author: rnell
Subject: 9435
Posted: 06 October 2020 at 1:20pm

I am definitely not a Guns and Roses expert but in the
case of Patience both US and UK singles read LP version
in the commercial 7". Maybe you refer to the promo 7"
which has a 4:19 edit. It's the same case with Paradise
city, promo 7" is substantially shorter than CD single
and commercial 7" at 4:07 (versus 6:46). Unfortunately
I have always concentrated my efforts by buying
commercial versions of any UK or US hit song (at least
while a physical format was available). ]]> Tue, 06 Oct 2020 13:20:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56170&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56170 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56140&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56140 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9435
Posted: 04 October 2020 at 12:10am

rnell wrote: EdisonLite, I have followed UK charts since the 70s and for the last 10 years I have compiled something similar to Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual book for the UK Top 40 starting in 1960, with the information taken from the weekly Top 40 Charts, now available in the Official Chart Company webpage . I update this information every friday when new chart is published. For each song listed by highest position I started adding the listed time. As you might know UK vinyl singles do not show this information in label which makes this task really difficult. I do have thousands of Uk singles though, so I am able to time 45s myself. Since 1987 until approx. 2010, almost all UK hits were available as CD singles which has helped me a lot to try to complete my work. As per your specific question there are too many cases of hits where album version is different from the single version (as there are differences between the vinyl single and cd single), this is for the period where both formats were available (aprox. 1987-1994): I could mention all Shakatak (very popular jazz pop group from the 80s) or Swing out Sister where singles are unique mixes. I could guess probably 70% of all top 20 hits starting in the 80s have mixes for the single version. It's just a guess. Let me know and I can provide you with the information I've been able to compile.

I would be curious to know if you have the two Guns and Roses UK edits in your collection from 1989 (Specifically Paradise City and Patience I think)are available on CD or UK CD singles or comps. They dont appear to have made it to CD and I think they only appear on the UK 45 versions....]]> Sun, 04 Oct 2020 00:10:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56140&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56140 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56129&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56129 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9435
Posted: 02 October 2020 at 2:23am

Thanks Raul!]]> Fri, 02 Oct 2020 02:23:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56129&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56129 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56122&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56122 Author: rnell
Subject: 9435
Posted: 01 October 2020 at 6:59pm

The official UK charts can be viewed in
www.officialcharts.com. You can view all historical
weekly UK charts which changed over the years (top 75 or
Top 100, or Top 50 or whatever was published at the time.
My personal email is rnell@fibertel.com.ar. I send you
back a few files (excel files per year) to see if they
serve your purpose. ]]> Thu, 01 Oct 2020 18:59:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56122&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56122 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56108&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56108 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9435
Posted: 01 October 2020 at 2:41pm

rnell, I'd be curious to know the exact webpage that has the UK Official Chart Company list. Although, since it doesn't mention times, I'm curious - would you be able to share your list? I don't know if it's in a common format like pdf, but with timings listed, it would certainly help distinguish between single and album edits, even though not necessarily remixes of the timings were very similar. Thanks.]]> Thu, 01 Oct 2020 14:41:44 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56108&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56108 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56102&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56102 Author: rnell
Subject: 9435
Posted: 01 October 2020 at 1:28pm

EdisonLite, I have followed UK charts since the 70s
and for the last 10 years I have compiled something
similar to Joel Whitburn's Pop Annual book for the UK
Top 40 starting in 1960, with the information taken
from the weekly Top 40 Charts, now available in the
Official Chart Company webpage . I update this
information every friday when new chart is published.
For each song listed by highest position I started
adding the listed time. As you might know UK vinyl
singles do not show this information in label which
makes this task really difficult. I do have thousands
of Uk singles though, so I am able to time 45s myself.
Since 1987 until approx. 2010, almost all UK hits were
available as CD singles which has helped me a lot to
try to complete my work. As per your specific
question there are too many cases of hits where album
version is different from the single version (as there
are differences between the vinyl single and cd
single), this is for the period where both formats
were available (aprox. 1987-1994): I could mention
all Shakatak (very popular jazz pop group from the
80s) or Swing out Sister where singles are unique
mixes. I could guess probably 70% of all top 20 hits
starting in the 80s have mixes for the single version.
It's just a guess. Let me know and I can provide you
with the information I've been able to compile.]]> Thu, 01 Oct 2020 13:28:09 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56102&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56102 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56049&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56049 Author: AutumnAarilyn
Subject: 9435
Posted: 28 September 2020 at 3:45pm

On the R&B side, Loose Ends had a different mix of
much
of their debut album, A Little Spice, compared to what
was released in the US. The earlier UK mixes were
shorter, not as coherent, and were not featured on the
US albums.

Those songs include "Tell me what you want" and
"Choose me". I'm not sure how far things charted and
on what chart but the music is surely different. Hope
this helps.

I also heard that the Four Tops had some different
singles in the UK that did not get a single release in
the US. Most Motown 60's singles were mixed
differently so there's probably a few unique mixes on
them.

Edited by AutumnAarilyn]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2020 15:45:51 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56049&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56049 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56017&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56017 Author: EdisonLite
Subject: 9435
Posted: 28 September 2020 at 2:39am

This is off topic, but the folks who post here would be more likely to know than any other group of people.

Over the years I've bought a lot of UK-only hits on CD (mostly '70s and '80s songs). By that I mean, hits that did not chart in the US. And not having owned the original 45s, I have absolutely no idea if I have an album mix of a song when there very well may be a single mix that exists.

Since we've had off-topic threads here, like non-top 40 single vs. album mixes; Non-top 100 single vs. album mixes; and extended 12" mix versions including songs that didn't make the top 40 - I figured why not start a thread for UK hits that had single versions.

So if any of you know of any UK-only hit single mixes or edits - can you add the info to this post here?

(To be clear I'm not referring to songs that were hits on both sides of the Atlantic and had different mixes, like David Dundas' "Jeans On". But songs that were only hits in the UK.)

So there may be very few people that would be able to to contribute to this thread. But I'm hoping some people might be fans of UK music like me.

To put all this in another perspective, I wish there was an equivalent of Pat Downey's book and chatroom for the UK - where they discuss the same things we do. As far as I know, there's no such website.]]> Mon, 28 Sep 2020 02:39:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9435&PID=56017&title=ot-uk-singles-w-different-mixes#56017