https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Sat, 11 Apr 2026 21:48:45 +0000 Sun, 17 Dec 2023 10:32:16 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9499 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64156&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64156 Author: Scanner
Subject: 9499
Posted: 17 December 2023 at 10:32am

With Brenda Lee also "rockin'" atop the Country Digital
Songs and Country Streaming charts, why is she also not
rockin' at the top of Hot Country Songs? Recurrents can
re-chart there - Jimmy Buffett recently returned at #14
with "Margaritaville" shortly after he passed away. (The
song fell one notch short of its original #13 peak in
1977.) If her song is #1 across all genres, you would
think that would be enough to place her back on Country as
well.

Billboard's country chart rules can be somewhat suspect.
After Olivia Newton-John passed away, five of her songs
ranked on Country Digital Songs. These five as well as
seven others charted on the overall Digital Songs Sales
chart. Among the missing on the Country chart was "Let Me
Be There" which went Top 10 Country on all four national
singles charts (Billboard, Cashbox, R&R, Record World) and
earned Olivia a Grammy for Best Country Vocal Performance
- Female. Yet, "Let" was not included on the Country
Digital Songs chart even though it ranked higher on the
Digital Songs chart than "Please Mr. Please" that did
chart Country that week! Conversely, some of Buffett's
songs such as "Volcano" which never charted Country were
considered Country after he passed and appeared on Country
Digital Songs.]]> Sun, 17 Dec 2023 10:32:16 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64156&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64156 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64132&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64132 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 9499
Posted: 14 December 2023 at 12:24pm

Here's the daily chart for Spotify
https://kworb.net/spotify/country/us_daily.html

There are also numerous other charts at that link to check
out.]]> Thu, 14 Dec 2023 12:24:24 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64132&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64132 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64131&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64131 Author: Brian W.
Subject: 9499
Posted: 13 December 2023 at 11:08am

Hykker wrote: when you see artists like Bad Bunny or a zillion rappers all called Lil' somebodyorother who get little or no airplay with dozens of chart hits something's wrong. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I miss the days when the Hot 100 was actually reflective of what you might hear on the radio.

I feel like streaming has kind of replaced airplay. And rightfully so,
in my opinion. I've always felt that what you hear on the radio has
nothing to do with whether you wanted to hear it or not. I personally
pay more attention to the streaming chart than I do to the Hot 100 these
days.]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2023 11:08:36 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64131&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64131 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64130&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64130 Author: Hykker
Subject: 9499
Posted: 13 December 2023 at 5:29am

I guess I'm the outlier here (big surprise), because I think this re-charting of Christmas oldies every year does nothing but distort the charts
even more than they already are. I could see a current Christmas song charting in the year it was released, but beyond that I'd just limit
them to a Christmas chart. Seeing a 65 year old seasonal song at #1 makes no sense to me.

RoknRobnLoxley wrote: I've always wanted to see multiple charts broken down by artist age, say by decade. Then you'd have even more publicity generated for them and their music. Separate charts for artists in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. Everyone wins, artists get exposure, fans continue to hear about their long time fave artists thru various media, more records are sold, record companies make more $. Seems obvious to me...

Well, that makes one of us. Not really sure what you're getting at here. Why should the age of an artist determine what chart their song appears
on?
I'll be the first to admit that I have no better idea on how to construct a chart in the 3rd decade of the 21st century, but when you see artists
like Bad Bunny or a zillion rappers all called Lil' somebodyorother who get little or no airplay with dozens of chart hits something's wrong.
Maybe I'm just getting old, but I miss the days when the Hot 100 was actually reflective of what you might hear on the radio.]]> Wed, 13 Dec 2023 05:29:42 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64130&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64130 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64129&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64129 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 9499
Posted: 12 December 2023 at 6:16pm

Brenda Lee is now at number one on the Hot 100 for a second week. Go Brenda!]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2023 18:16:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64129&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64129 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64128&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64128 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 9499
Posted: 12 December 2023 at 5:36pm

Cher recently topped the Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales chart with "DJ Play A Christmas Song."

The Cher song is also currently topping the Adult
Contemporary chart as well.]]> Tue, 12 Dec 2023 17:36:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64128&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64128 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64104&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64104 Author: Santi Paradoa
Subject: 9499
Posted: 04 December 2023 at 6:29pm

Brenda Lee is the early chart topper for Dec. 2023 with "Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree." She is now the oldest person to ever have a number one on the Hot 100.

Brenda turns 79 years young next week. Her last number one was in 1960. This means it's a 63-year spread between chart topping hits for Brenda on the Hot 100.

2023 may be a new high point for "dinosaur rock" acts on the Billboard charts with Brenda, Cher, Dolly Parton, the Rolling Stones and the Beatles all charting on one or more of Billboard's many music charts.

In case you missed it, Cher recently topped the Dance/Electronic Digital Song Sales chart with "DJ Play A Christmas Song." Dolly topped the Top Album Sales chart with "Rockstar."

Edited by Santi Paradoa]]> Mon, 04 Dec 2023 18:29:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=64104&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#64104 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56794&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56794 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 9499
Posted: 14 December 2020 at 12:22pm

Just looked at Billboard. Mariah is back at #1. Her song
joins "White Christmas" and "The Twist" as the only songs
to be #1 more than once.
]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:22:58 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56794&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56794 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56787&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56787 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 9499
Posted: 14 December 2020 at 7:03am

EdisonLite wrote: For that 5-7 week period, what if a song peaks at 16 but would have peaked at 7 if it weren't for the XMas songs, and by the time the 5-7 weeks is over, the song has already lost steam and is down on the chart, never to get to its "top 10 status".

That's a good point, but considering that hit songs now regularly average 20, 30 or many more weeks on the chart (especially in the Top 10), many of those songs will likely move back up the charts once the Christmas songs drop off and may actually obtain higher positions than they had before the Christmas songs re-entered. I think songs now have a better chance of doing that as opposed to the charts of the past where a #1 song might average 6-7 weeks in the Top 10 and less than 20 weeks on the chart.

Edited by thecdguy]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2020 07:03:49 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56787&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56787 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56786&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56786 Author: RoknRobnLoxley
Subject: 9499
Posted: 14 December 2020 at 6:31am

The charts are manipulated because that's what the industry wants. They want newer songs in the charts quicker, rotate the older records out, because obviously they make more $ (or think they do). Follow the money, end of story.

The solution is this: you have one master chart without any manipulation rules, to show all truth. Then you have sub-charts, one chart that is adjusted for/that leans towards newer songs, one for Christmas songs, other charts for other specialties. That way more total records get more total exposure across multiple specialty charts.

I've always wanted to see multiple charts broken down by artist age, say by decade. Then you'd have even more publicity generated for them and their music. Separate charts for artists in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. Everyone wins, artists get exposure, fans continue to hear about their long time fave artists thru various media, more records are sold, record companies make more $. Seems obvious to me...]]> Mon, 14 Dec 2020 06:31:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9499&PID=56786&title=ot-christmas-songs-reentering#56786