https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Wed, 08 Apr 2026 14:05:08 +0000 Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:56:19 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9565 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57689&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57689 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 5:56pm

Just took the time to transfer all my versions of
"Jacob's Ladder" to my editing software (Sound Forge).
This is my favorite of all of Huey's hits.

The vinyl promo 12" labeled 'Special Radio Remix' is
the same as the promo 45 (which is unlabeled).

The vinyl LP is the same mix as the 'Fore' CD and the
'Greatest Hits' CD (which is labeled, inaccurately,
'single remix').

There is very little difference between the two mixes.
Most noticeable is the opening keyboard melody line is
a tad louder on the promo 12"/promo 7" compared to the
LP mix. Even that is hard to distinguish!

One thing that makes it easier to tell the mixes apart
is removing the center channel information in the
tracks. The vinyl LP & the two CDs have a very audible
flange effect two seconds into the song when removing
the center channel info - the promo
12" & promo 45 do not have this flange effect when
removing the center channel info.

I still haven't heard a dub of the actual commercial
single so I don't know if it's the same as the promos.

Andy

Edited to add - Even if the commercial single is
identical to the two promos, I don't think anybody
should spend any major time hunting it down as the
difference is so negligible it doesn't need to be
noted in the database.




Edited by AndrewChouffi]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:56:19 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57689&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57689 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57688&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57688 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 3:38pm

Does anyone out there have a needledrop of the actual
commercial 45?

I'm going to pull out my original LP vinyl and try to
dub it also.

Andy

]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 15:38:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57688&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57688 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57687&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57687 Author: NightAire
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 2:09pm

It runs about 0.2% faster than the version I've been playing, and like CFTP said, I hear (and see) much compression, limiting, and a brighter eq... but I have to question if any of these were on the original 7" single.

The fade point and length is identical, and once it's at the right speed they very nearly cancel each other out. I don't hear any instruments added or subtracted on either mix, even when playing the mono folddown of one in the left channel and the mono folddown of the other in the right channel.

Like others have said: I'm not convinced it's an independent mix.]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:09:28 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57687&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57687 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57686&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57686 Author: AndrewChouffi
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 12:29pm

The CDs all sound like different
masterings of the LP mix to me. One of
these days I'm going to have to dub my
promo 12" and my promo 7" and to get
to the bottom of this!

Andy]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:29:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57686&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57686 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57685&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57685 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 12:21pm

There's a drastic EQ/volume difference between the Greatest Hits disc and the earlier masterings. GH is about 6 dB louder than Fore, and compresses/limits the peaks on top of that.

Both have a whole lot of reverb on the lead vocals (listen around 0:15-0:17).

I don't hear any mix differences.]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:21:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57685&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57685 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57684&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57684 Author: The Hits Man
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 11:46am

I can't tell any difference.]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:46:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57684&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57684 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57683&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57683 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 11:22am

It's hard to discern a difference. If there is one it's
perhaps the added reverb.]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:22:18 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57683&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57683 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57682&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57682 Author: eriejwg
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 11:18am

Here's a video on YouTube - Special Single Remix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObN3-9JV294

I checked the 45 at 45cat and no indication of a remix on
the label.]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 11:18:14 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57682&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57682 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57679&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57679 Author: crapfromthepast
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 7:40am

I have the '80s-era US CD pressing of Fore (1986). I assume that this disc includes the LP mix, but I don't have the vinyl LP to compare.

I don't know what's on the UK CD pressing of Fore. Note that the UK CD of Fore adds the UK 45 version of "The Power Of Love", which is different from the US 45/soundtrack version and is omitted from the US versions of Fore.

There's a digitally identical clone of the US Fore on Chrysalis's The Heart Of Rock And Roll - The Best Of Huey Lewis And The News (1992).

There's a differently-EQ'd version of the above two on Time-Life's Sounds Of The Eighties Vol. 19 The Late '80s (1996).]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 07:40:57 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57679&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57679 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57678&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57678 Author: thecdguy
Subject: 9565
Posted: 15 March 2021 at 7:01am

Gene, the 2006 "Greatest Hits" has it listed as a "Single
Remix". The other one is an import compilation titled,
"Collected".]]> Mon, 15 Mar 2021 07:01:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9565&PID=57678&title=huey-lewis-the-news-jacobs-ladder#57678