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Glenn Miller - In The Mood : Re:CEDER I not like the sound...

Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:35:02 +0000

Author: whyaduck
Subject: 9604
Posted: 11 July 2021 at 7:35am

Re:CEDER

I not like the sound on anything I've ever heard in which it was used. Of course that may be partly explainable as it's rarely used on anything that has good sound quality in the first place.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : While I'm no expert on the...

Wed, 09 Jun 2021 08:56:42 +0000

Author: RichM921
Subject: 9604
Posted: 09 June 2021 at 8:56am

While I'm no expert on the Swing era, I do have a strong interest in the
early '50s pre-rock era. I've been impressed by the compilations I've
received from Collectors Choice Music. Be aware that a lot of their
songs are needle drops. I know there are differing opinions on those.
Personally I would rather have a good needle drop of an original hit
version than a better sounding later recording. Authenticity beats
sound quality if I had to choose one over the other.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : NightAire wrote:While not digital,...

Fri, 04 Jun 2021 16:04:41 +0000

Author: Brian W.
Subject: 9604
Posted: 04 June 2021 at 4:04pm

NightAire wrote:

While not digital, I am telling you
that you will never hear anything like this set:

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jukebox&fbclid=IwAR2U1NKNeO03b2vF3g8Z8rl7tPa0gRj-
oIrfd8uWhEenb-VHlXilXtziY5c">Glenn Miller - Swing For
The Jukebox

From one of the reviews: "What Rollofone have done is
honorable, bold and daring more than any major or
minor record company with the metal masters or
licensing to loan them out: re-releasing ten studio
recordings on their original format, the ten-inch 78
rpm phonograph record.

The sound is very, very good and in the cases of some
songs, like �American Patrol�, possibly the best
available in any format. For this, Rollofone deserves
much credit for, concerning the fact that they�re a
small company with limited resources and their
process, unlike the vast majority today, was entirely
analogue."

Anothe reviewer said: " I have all these songs on a
cds and records. Before playing each side in this set,
I listened to the best version in my collections. This
set has best sound and has the most details preserved
of any I own. This set brings out details lost in
other releases. On my sound system, it out shines the
Doug Pomeroy CDs."

Sadly, the set did not sell well at all, likely due to
a combination of a small company with little to no
promotional budget, a large pricetag, and a lack of
understanding of what went into its production... and
there was an issue with the Miller estate itself, with
Miller's daughter finally approving the endeavor.

A final, personal, sad note for me is one of the
engineers, Mark Cederquist, who raved about his time
on this project, has passed away and so the skills he
developed transferring these recordings have likely
been lost to the ages.

If you can afford it, THIS is the Glenn Miller
collection you want.

It might be worth mentioning that while they do not
have the license to sell these recordings on CD, they
are "charging to make copies of your records" if you
purchase the vinyl and will include a CD for $20
production fee.

I'd love to have it, but I can't justify paying $156
for ten songs.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : While not digital, I am telling...

Thu, 03 Jun 2021 14:29:32 +0000

Author: NightAire
Subject: 9604
Posted: 03 June 2021 at 2:29pm

While not digital, I am telling you that you will never hear anything like this set:

Glenn Miller - Swing For The Jukebox

From one of the reviews: "What Rollofone have done is honorable, bold and daring more than any major or minor record company with the metal masters or licensing to loan them out: re-releasing ten studio recordings on their original format, the ten-inch 78 rpm phonograph record.

The sound is very, very good and in the cases of some songs, like �American Patrol�, possibly the best available in any format. For this, Rollofone deserves much credit for, concerning the fact that they�re a small company with limited resources and their process, unlike the vast majority today, was entirely analogue."

Anothe reviewer said: " I have all these songs on a cds and records. Before playing each side in this set, I listened to the best version in my collections. This set has best sound and has the most details preserved of any I own. This set brings out details lost in other releases. On my sound system, it out shines the Doug Pomeroy CDs."

Sadly, the set did not sell well at all, likely due to a combination of a small company with little to no promotional budget, a large pricetag, and a lack of understanding of what went into its production... and there was an issue with the Miller estate itself, with Miller's daughter finally approving the endeavor.

A final, personal, sad note for me is one of the engineers, Mark Cederquist, who raved about his time on this project, has passed away and so the skills he developed transferring these recordings have likely been lost to the ages.

If you can afford it, THIS is the Glenn Miller collection you want.

It might be worth mentioning that while they do not have the license to sell these recordings on CD, they are "charging to make copies of your records" if you purchase the vinyl and will include a CD for $20 production fee.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : At a high end audio show in Detroit...

Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:10:08 +0000

Author: C J Brown
Subject: 9604
Posted: 02 June 2021 at 4:10pm

At a high end audio show in Detroit held by Audiokarma
several years ago I seen a 78 RPM set up that blew my
mind. I cannot say what any of the equipment was. I just
know that it produced incredible sound. Only listening and
not looking it I would find it hard to guess it was 78
RPM. I previously never heard anything even close to this
before from a 78 RPM. I remember the fellow running the
set up told me it was important tuo s=use the correct
stylus(needle) and to have a real clean record.

There is a YouTube Channel - the 78Prof - that has tons of
great sounding 78s

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : vanmeter wrote:In my humble...

Wed, 02 Jun 2021 15:38:55 +0000

Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9604
Posted: 02 June 2021 at 3:38pm

vanmeter wrote:

In my humble opinion, the original 78s always sound better if you can find a pressing that isn't noisy. I love the music of the 30s-40s and have quite a bit of it on original shellac, vinyl reissues from the 60s and 70s, with a smattering of CDs from the past 30+ years, and generally the original discs always sound better. 78s are inherently loud with a powerful mid-range and on the right setup can be amazing—albeit not hi-fi, lots-of-treble stereo amazing, but with a midrange that can be incredibly realistic. But that said, I don't mind the lower-fi nature of the recordings in the first place (and I love mono).

Your always welcome to join my project. Always looking for good source from that time period. I am not sure they make a 78 player that can produce a .wav file can they? I mean they have turntables that can do it right?

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : I knew a guy at one point that...

Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:37:16 +0000

Author: NightAire
Subject: 9604
Posted: 02 June 2021 at 2:37pm

I knew a guy at one point that was pulling audio off the original metal master parts (not the technical term for them, I'm sure, lol) and the sound he was getting from the masters for these old 78s was extraordinary! I was hearing high end I never knew was possible in those decades.

Sadly, I'm not sure anything ever came of the project... or if he's still with us. I'll have to do some digging and see if I still have any samples he sent me and / or if he was able to commercially release what he was capturing.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : In my humble opinion, the original...

Wed, 02 Jun 2021 08:13:22 +0000

Author: vanmeter
Subject: 9604
Posted: 02 June 2021 at 8:13am

In my humble opinion, the original 78s always sound better if you can find a pressing that isn't noisy. I love the music of the 30s-40s and have quite a bit of it on original shellac, vinyl reissues from the 60s and 70s, with a smattering of CDs from the past 30+ years, and generally the original discs always sound better. 78s are inherently loud with a powerful mid-range and on the right setup can be amazing—albeit not hi-fi, lots-of-treble stereo amazing, but with a midrange that can be incredibly realistic. But that said, I don't mind the lower-fi nature of the recordings in the first place (and I love mono).

Edited by vanmeter

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : crapfromthepast wrote:I myself...

Tue, 01 Jun 2021 20:54:52 +0000

Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9604
Posted: 01 June 2021 at 8:54pm

crapfromthepast wrote:

I myself haven't been a fan of CEDAR (used on the Steely Dan Citizen box set in 1993), NoNoise (plaguing the entire 1980s output of the TM Century
library), or noise reduction in general.

I would have never guessed that the Citizen Steely Dan set had anything but some really good examples of NR. I personally own the set, (Have for several years), and
it has been my default Steely Dan collection. I have to assume at this point that there are some of us that really appreciate when the NR is applied in areas where
noise has been a distraction to the content. I got my whole indoctrination to Steely Dan from this box set.

Sure, sure everyone knows all the songs that hit the top 40 charts, but I got a real in depth appreciation for Donald and Walter along with all the session artists that
came with the collection. (And maybe some of the TM Century inventory too.)

The point being that I might have had a different perspective of all those songs, had they not had the NR applied. I guess if I really wanted to buy all the albums that the
collection covered, I can still do that and then decide if the NR was worth the effort. So, maybe it's a good thing you bring up the whole NR conversation on these albums.
It gives me something new to look for should I decide to buy the original albums. But, I probably won't do that.

Thanks Ron, I think we always need to have opinions. It definitely keeps things interesting.

Glenn Miller - In The Mood : Re; CEDAR - CEDAR is very powerful,...

Tue, 01 Jun 2021 14:26:57 +0000

Author: NightAire
Subject: 9604
Posted: 01 June 2021 at 2:26pm

Re; CEDAR - CEDAR is very powerful, has lots of options, is expensive to own the full system, and I'm confident can be set to destroy the sound of any recording. I'd certainly want an expert to carefully apply CEDAR to old analog recordings. (I never knew CEDAR was used on a Steely Dan recording! Weird.)

Re; originals vs. re-recordings. The thing that really shocks me about the original performances vs. the stereo re-recordings in later decades, is how much ENERGY and PASSION there was in the original performances, while the re-recordings are technically accurate but the "magic in a bottle" of the original recordings are just gone.

For a perfect example of this, I dare you to find as good a version of "Sing, Sing, Sing" by Benny Goodman as the original release single. Future performances were good, but that first release was on FIRE. I'll put up with sound quality issues to get that kind of energy (the big band & swing of the 30s & 40s was the rock and roll of the era, I'm convinced, and this recording really "rocks!').