https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Mon, 04 May 2026 23:01:38 +0000 Tue, 20 Jul 2021 19:25:59 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=9634 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58695&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58695 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9634
Posted: 20 July 2021 at 7:25pm

Update

Here is what I can't find lossless (or available for purchase anywhere)

Boyz N Da Hood - Dem Boyz (The LP is 15 seconds short of the 4:30 on the promo.
Marques Hoston- Naked (The LP from Qobuz is lossy, the edit is lossy...most likely its lossy. Promo near impossible to find.)
Webbie - Give Me That (The Radio Edit is the only place to get a clean version, the album is only out in Explicit.) Ordered the promo to see if its lossless.

As for 2004, What's Happenin' by the Yin Yang Twins radio edit is lossless on the promo! That means Culo by Pitbull is the only song for the year not available in lossless quality. That sucks!

So that leaves I'm Sprung, Slow Down, Across The Universe, Dem Boyz, Naked and Cry Baby (and possibly Give Me That) as the only lossless for the year. On to 2006!

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Tue, 20 Jul 2021 19:25:59 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58695&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58695 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58653&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58653 Author: cristianmdp
Subject: 9634
Posted: 17 July 2021 at 11:57am

"Release has been blocked from the Marketplace as a result of a legal notice received by Discogs asserting that the release was not licensed by the rights holder. Ref. #377486."

GM222CD

Edited by cristianmdp]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2021 11:57:01 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58653&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58653 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58652&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58652 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9634
Posted: 17 July 2021 at 11:42am

Tracklist
1     Toca's Miracle (Miracle Radio Edit)     3:24 (3:22)
2     Toca's Miracle (Toca Radio Edit)        3:25 (3:31)
3     Toca's Miracle (Miracle Extended Mix)   5:37 (5:36)
4     Toca's Miracle (Toca Club Mix)         5:44 (5:44)
5     Toca's Miracle (In Petto Remix)        6:45 (6:45)
        Remix – In Petto*

From the Discogs listing link (Above) GM222CD

That is actually the CD single I have. The odd thing I noticed was the times listed on the tracks. Perhaps someone put actual times in the listing instead of the times
printed on the back of the CD case. The times shown above in parentheses are the times printed on my CD single. My autocorrect doesn't like the word "Toca."

I also noted they aren't allowing anyone to sell it. I suppose the ban on digital versions continues.

Discogs has this listed as a US version on Grooveillicious Music, NY and a host of other labels not from the USA. Orbit Records for one. I wonder if that's a part
of the same Orbit company that publishes books nowadays?

I went to Wikipedia and I don't see this CD single listed with the other CD singles. I also went to Youtube and listened to the 2008 version which was a dud.

Edited by AdvprosD]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2021 11:42:06 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58652&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58652 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58642&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58642 Author: cristianmdp
Subject: 9634
Posted: 17 July 2021 at 6:06am

Please check your PMs :)

Edited by cristianmdp]]> Sat, 17 Jul 2021 06:06:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58642&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58642 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58641&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58641 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9634
Posted: 16 July 2021 at 11:45pm

AdvprosD wrote: I have a CD single of Toca's Miracle on the shelf. Though I'd guess that it is also a domestic version, I'd have to assume it's lossy by your notations. How did you get notes on the CD single source? (I ask being totally uninformed about this particular tune.)

The mp3 was developed in 1994-1995. There are instances in the late 90's where files are lossy on the CD promo (Step by Step by Whitney Houston is a prime example). There was one other lossy in the 2000 assembly, but you can sidestep it if you have the LP in lossless to create the edit (if I recall Toni Braxton's Spanish Guitar was the one).

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 23:45:23 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58641&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58641 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58640&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58640 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9634
Posted: 16 July 2021 at 11:32pm

AdvprosD wrote: I have a CD single of Toca's Miracle on the shelf. Though I'd guess that it is also a domestic version, I'd have to assume it's lossy by your notations. How did you get notes on the CD single source? (I ask being totally uninformed about this particular tune.)

The radio edit, which times in at 3:21 without silence is lossy on the domestic single, as per Aaron. The Miracle Radio Edit is considered the one that got airplay. I never heard the 3:01 and keep in mind this song barely cracked the Hot 100. Its only because I like club mixes I even heard it when it was on WKTU in 2000 once or twice. If you look at the spectrum the import rip is way above 20 where the promo, even just listening is not as sharp.

I also use a program called Fakin the Funk which generally spots lossy files that might look lossless but don't peak high enough.

Promo Spectrum

https://ibb.co/KxHmz3t

Import CD Rip

https://ibb.co/k3Kz370

https://www.discogs.com/Fragma-Tocas-Miracle/release/84771

It also doesn't help that this song had some rights controversy in the late 2000's which pulled all digital copies off platforms. About all you will find now is a remade version from 2008. However, I think Toca's Miracle was huge in the UK.


Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 23:32:20 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58640&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58640 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58639&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58639 Author: AdvprosD
Subject: 9634
Posted: 16 July 2021 at 10:15pm

I have a CD single of Toca's Miracle on the shelf. Though I'd guess that it is also a domestic version, I'd have to assume it's lossy by your notations. How did
you get notes on the CD single source? (I ask being totally uninformed about this particular tune.)]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 22:15:34 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58639&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58639 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58637&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58637 Author: PopArchivist
Subject: 9634
Posted: 16 July 2021 at 8:15pm

A little catch up...

From 2000-2003, I have been able to get every position's radio edit/clean version in CD quality for the entire Hot 100. For 2000 the difficult one was Toca's Miracle, which was found on an import compilation since the CD single was lossy here in the USA.

For 2004 I gave up on Pitbull's Culo which is lossy everywhere (on his 2004 album, promo and Greatest). I ordered the CD single for What's Happenin by the Yin Yang Twins, which is the only other radio edit that is lossy to see if its lossless on the promo.

Now we get to 2005. I can say that with a little effort I've been able to whittle it down to 10 songs that are not lossless in 2005's Hot 100.

Bobby Valentino - Slow Down (The LP is lossless but the Radio Edit, including all promos and online downloads are lossy)
Boyz N Da Hood - Dem Boyz (The LP is 15 seconds short of the 4:30 on the promo. Have to order the promo, which is nowhere to be found unless anyone can tell me the promo is lossy)
Damian Jr. Gong Marley - Welcome to Jamrock (Not sure if the promo is lossy)
Marques Hoston- Naked (The LP is lossless, but unsure if the promo for this which runs about 35 seconds shorter is lossless, possible edit from LP?)
Melissa Ethridge - Cry Baby/Piece of My Heart (Itunes download, not available on CD)
Monchy & Alexandra - Perdidos (LP runs 20 seconds shorter, promo appears to be only place to get the radio version, not sure if its lossy)
Tommy Lee - Good Times (good news this is the album version off TommyLand: The Ride, bad news is that I have to order it to find out if its lossless, which it probably is)
T'Pain - I'm Sprung (Whether its on NOW or the CD promo just like Slow Down, its lossy everywhere.) Dont think you can edit the LP to create it.
Various Artists - Across The Universe (Itunes download, not available on CD)
Webbie - Give Me That (The Radio Edit is the only place to get a clean version, the album is only out in Explicit.) Not sure if its lossy or not.

So there you have it. If anyone has the promos or knows where to find CD quality of any of these tracks let me know. This is the first true year that Itunes downloads figured into an actual chart hit on the Hot 100 and then they disappeared just as quick. In 15 years they have never been released on CD and probably never will be.

Edited by PopArchivist]]> Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:15:41 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9634&PID=58637&title=2005-hot-100-in-cd-quality#58637