https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ Copyright (c) 2006-2013 Web Wiz Forums - All Rights Reserved. Thu, 07 May 2026 14:38:00 +0000 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:17:40 +0000 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss Web Wiz Forums 12.07 360 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/RSS_post_feed.asp?TID=97 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum//images/Top-40-Music-on-CD-Forum-Logo.png https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/ https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43457&title=talking-heads-edit#43457 Author: NightAire
Subject: 97
Posted: 15 April 2015 at 9:17pm

Happy to help!!!

I'm running a million miles an hour myself right now; I
have seriously delayed "thank yous" to send and edits to
determine on another song.

Hopefully the first of next week. :-)]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:17:40 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43457&title=talking-heads-edit#43457 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43456&title=talking-heads-edit#43456 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 97
Posted: 15 April 2015 at 5:05am

Gene: Firstly, thanks for taking the time to provide the above information. It was my turn to have a crazy couple of weeks so I've only just managed to tackle this. At first glance, it looked to be a bit of a nightmare but it was surprisingly easy and I am very satisfied with the results. So, thanks again!]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2015 05:05:46 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43456&title=talking-heads-edit#43456 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43383&title=talking-heads-edit#43383 Author: NightAire
Subject: 97
Posted: 28 March 2015 at 10:13pm

I'll do my best to describe the promo edit points. I'm
working with a .WAV file, not the original CD, so I'm not
100% on how the CD tracks... my .WAV file both fades in
and fades out, so that may affect your edit points.

Also, I will posting edit points "work in progress"
style... in other words, you edit :25 - :30 in the file,
then from THAT file you edit from :07 - :15, and so on.

I hope this makes sense!!!

The first edit chops off the opening keyboards. Edit
everything before 21 seconds off of the beginning so your
file starts with the downbeat (and guitar strike).

Next, take out 0:07 - 0:14, editing on the downbeat,
leaving the last two guitar notes before the lyrics
start.

Then, edit between 1:22 and 1:30, starting on the bass
note. This eliminates 4 "same as it ever was"s.

This next one is a two-part edit, and I had to work
backwards to figure out what went where. I'm sure
somebody smarter could figure it out going forwards.

#1 - Starting at 1:42, on the 3rd bass guitar lick,
right before lyrics, edit from there to 2:29 on the 3rd
bass guitar lick right before the lyrics "may ask
yourself / what is that beautiful house..."

#2 - Take out 1:30 - 1:38, again starting on the 3rd bass
lick.

Next, take out 2:39 to 2;46. I did the edit on the start
of the three (four?) bass licks, but my edit is cleaner
than the original single or something because it falls
apart by a quarter second or so between this edit point
and the original single...

If somebody has better edit points on this one that keep
it in sync with the promo edit I'd love to see them.
It's clear in the promo edit that 2:39 (in our in-
progress edit) is where they edited as that first bass
note is the first thing out of sync... so the edit HAS
to be there, but maybe they ended their edit a hair
earlier than mine? I'm not sure!

Then you want to take out 2:48 to 2:56. I did my edit on
the beginning of the tom roll, and that seems to match up
perfectly with the single.

Believe it or not, there is one MORE edit, and this is
actually a copy / paste situation.

At 3:22, where he is singing "..time" of the word
"lifetime," cut from there all the way to the end of the
file.

Now, copy from 3:06 to the end of your file, and paste it
at the end. (Using Adobe Audition, I had to use mix
paste instead of just paste to avoid a few frames of
silence.)

Chop your file down to 3:27 - 3:28 and start your fade
about 3:08 - 3:09.

Fade to taste... I'm assuming the original single fades
about :18 - :20 seconds but the very, very last few
seconds of the promo single are cut off on the copy I
have so I'm not 100% sure.

If the single really runs 3:27, then you end up with a 19
second fade.

*WHEW!* I hope this helps!!! It's been a crazy couple
of weeks, so this is later than I had hoped.]]> Sat, 28 Mar 2015 22:13:11 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43383&title=talking-heads-edit#43383 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43327&title=talking-heads-edit#43327 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 97
Posted: 19 March 2015 at 12:27am

Thanks NightAire. I'll flick you an email.

Something I noticed while researching the live version of Once In A Lifetime is that several (if not all) of the tracks on vinyl and cassette copies of the Stop Making Sense album were edited to some extent, compared to CD copies where they are fully intact. The live version of Once In A Lifetime runs roughly a minute longer on my CD than it does on the vinyl copy I used to own.

Another difference is that each track was separated by a short silence on my vinyl LP (ie the crowd noise faded right out after each track). I'm not sure if it's the same on original pressings of the CD, but on my CD copy (which is a 1999 reissue with bonus tracks), the tracks are in a different order to the original LP and are segued together.

]]> Thu, 19 Mar 2015 00:27:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43327&title=talking-heads-edit#43327 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43317&title=talking-heads-edit#43317 Author: NightAire
Subject: 97
Posted: 17 March 2015 at 10:09pm

Bwci Bo, I think I must have let this one fall through
the cracks, as it appears I'm still playing my 4-minute
"homebrew."

I need to go back over Chuck's copy and figure out the
edit points... then, I need to correct what we're
playing!

One caveat: I work 4, 10 hour wk days in a row, and they
start today, so I will be M.I.A. for the most part for
the next four days... I say that to say I will TRY to
remember to get back to this, but I may need a *bump* to
make sure I do it.

You can reach me via email at (no spaces) tulsa savage at
g mail dot com.

Thanks for bringing this back up! I'm ashamed I didn't
follow through on this...]]> Tue, 17 Mar 2015 22:09:30 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43317&title=talking-heads-edit#43317 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43312&title=talking-heads-edit#43312 Author: Bwci Bo
Subject: 97
Posted: 17 March 2015 at 7:22pm

NightAire wrote: For completeness, I'll figure out the edit points over the next day or two and post them here... then this post can sink back down into the depths of the message board, waiting to be discovered by the NEXT person who wants the edit of the live version of the '84 single of this song. :-D

Well, it looks as if I am that person!

NightAire, did you ever figure out and make a note of the edit points for the commercial 45 and/or promo 45 versions?

Interestingly, the live version was the only version of this song I ever heard on the radio here in NZ during the 1980s. I wasn't even aware that there was a studio version until sometime in the 1990s.

Edited by Bwci Bo]]> Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:22:37 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=43312&title=talking-heads-edit#43312 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32567&title=talking-heads-edit#32567 Author: DJghr1
Subject: 97
Posted: 22 January 2012 at 2:38pm

NightAire wrote: Aaron, I agree that what I hear today is the studio version; I don't remember hearing the live version on the radio, but wouldn't it HAVE to have been played more than the studio version in the 80s for it to have charted and the studio version to have not? Thanks, everyone, for your help on this! My wife thinks I'm ridiculous. :-\

The song was heavily played on MTV upon its debut in 1981. Over the years, its become somewhat of an MTV classic (mostly due to the video charting on many MTV all-time countdowns).

Check out this link:
Top 13 songs from MTV's first day

Edited by DJghr1]]> Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:38:00 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32567&title=talking-heads-edit#32567 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32566&title=talking-heads-edit#32566 Author: aaronk
Subject: 97
Posted: 22 January 2012 at 12:59am

NightAire wrote: Aaron, I agree that what I hear today is the studio version; I don't remember hearing the live version on the radio, but wouldn't it HAVE to have been played more than the studio version in the 80s for it to have charted and the studio version to have not?

I actually don't remember hearing this song at all on the radio in the '80s,
but I was pretty young when it came out. Since it was a really low charting
song, it might be possible that its peak position was fueled by sales only.]]> Sun, 22 Jan 2012 00:59:56 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32566&title=talking-heads-edit#32566 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32565&title=talking-heads-edit#32565 Author: NightAire
Subject: 97
Posted: 21 January 2012 at 3:53pm

Thanks to Chuck (THANK YOU CHUCK!!!), I can now confirm that the '84 7" 45 of Talking Heads - Once In A Lifetime (live) WAS edited from the album version.

The "A" side basically takes out the "water at the bottom of the ocean" verse mentioned above, and runs real close to 4:43 (I think the crowd may fade in and out faster).

The "B" side trims it even further than I did on MY radio edit / guess, taking it down to right about 3:26. I got the start point right (on the beat, like the studio single) but it takes out half of the intro, part of a chorus about halfway through... anyway, it really trims it down.

For completeness, I'll figure out the edit points over the next day or two and post them here... then this post can sink back down into the depths of the message board, waiting to be discovered by the NEXT person who wants the edit of the live version of the '84 single of this song. :-D]]> Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:53:31 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32565&title=talking-heads-edit#32565 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32561&title=talking-heads-edit#32561 Author: NightAire
Subject: 97
Posted: 21 January 2012 at 3:13am

Cmmbase, what's interesting about your 4:34 LP version is that the version I turned up with runs 5:32 from crowd fade in to crowd fade out.

I assume this is the album version, but I can't confirm my source on this one (too many files scattered across too many hard drives).

Would you be able to time your copy?

Also, if as you stated the flip side is an edit of the live version, could you post the edit points here? I edited the live version to approximate the DJ edit above, and it ended up running just at 4 minutes.

Aaron, I agree that what I hear today is the studio version; I don't remember hearing the live version on the radio, but wouldn't it HAVE to have been played more than the studio version in the 80s for it to have charted and the studio version to have not?

Thanks, everyone, for your help on this! My wife thinks I'm ridiculous. :-\]]> Sat, 21 Jan 2012 03:13:33 +0000 https://top40musiconcd.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=97&PID=32561&title=talking-heads-edit#32561